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French term or phrase: d'en sortir tant les sujets sont complexes

Context: "le débat interinstitutionnel ne se résumerait donc qu'à des positions officielles et pour la BCE il n'est pas question d'en sortir tant les sujets sont complexes."

Really not able to follow the last part of this sentence. "it is not a question of leaving it as the subjects are so complex"?? Not sure that makes much sense...

Little help?

Ryan Stephens KudoZ activity Questions: 7 (3 open) (2 closed without grading) Answers: 0
Local time: 05:32

Summary of answers provided

3 +4

depart from this line as the issues are so complex

Alain Pommet

to manage since the issues are complicated

Tassia Karam

3 +1

there is no way out of it [the debate], as the issues are so complex

Tony M

there's no question of evading it so intricate the issues are

Euqinimod (X)

2 +1

close it (get out of it, relinquish it) as the issues are so (most) complex

cjohnstone

and there's no way out of it for the BCE as the issues surrounding it are too complex (it = debate)

MatthewLaSon

Discussion entries: 3

Answers

4 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

close it (get out of it, relinquish it) as the issues are so (most) complex

Explanation:
clues

cjohnstone
France
Local time: 05:32
Native speaker of:

French,

English

Notes to answerer

Asker: A little grammar clarification: 'en' refers to the interinstutional debate, right?

Asker: Or rather to 'positions'?

Asker: I think Alain was closer below. 'en' refers to the positions. So they don't want to leave/give up these positions. Relinguish would work in this context. But not the other translations offered here.

8 mins confidence:

d\'en sortir tant les sujets sont complexes to manage since the issues are complicated

Explanation:
impossible to manage since the issues are complicated or complexe

Tassia Karam
France
Local time: 22:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English

Notes to answerer

Asker: It's "d'en sortir" not "de s'en sortir". So 'manage' isn't the right translation.

13 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

depart from this line as the issues are so complex

Explanation:
I think this is what it means.

There's no way they are going to stick their necks out.

In other words as the issues are so complex they must stay within their official positions - probably for fear of getting the blame . Sounds like institutional paralysis.

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-04-23 10:41:55 GMT)
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In reply: il n'est pas question =it's simply inconceivable - no way.

Personally I wouldn't use such strong words as 'abandon' or 'relinquish' because rather like the bank's officials I think it's unwise to take the risk of putting yourself in the firing line unnecessarily - depart or stray would be my choice.

Alain Pommet
Local time: 05:32
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 24

Notes to answerer

Asker: How about "it's not a question of abandoning these positions as..."?

4 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

débat... d'en sortir tant les sujets sont complexes there is no way out of it [the debate], as the issues are so complex

Explanation:
My reading is that the 'en' refers back to 'débat', and the 'sortir' to me means 'finding a way out of it'

Tony M
France
Local time: 05:32
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 348

4 hrs confidence:

there's no question of evading it so intricate the issues are

Explanation:
...

Euqinimod (X)
Local time: 05:32
Works in field
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 30

20 hrs confidence:

and there's no way out of it for the BCE as the issues surrounding it are too complex (it = debate)

Explanation:
Hello,

Here's my understanding:

The interinstitutional debate boils down to just being about official positions, and there's no way of out of it for the BCE as the issues surrounding it are too complex. In other words, they have to participate in this debate since the issues surrounding "official positions" are too complex. So they feel that their participation in this debate is crucial because of these complexities. I'm not sure, however, what they exactly mean here, but I do think that's the idea.

You need to make this sound like "conversation language", btw.

il n'est pas question = there's no way (no question of)
en sortir = to get out of it
tant = as/because/due to
sujets = issues

I hope this helps.

MatthewLaSon
Local time: 23:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 145

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