Sep 26, 2006 04:30
17 yrs ago
French term

gainée et non moufflée

French to English Other Ships, Sailing, Maritime
nouvelle drisse gainée et non moufflée

Discussion

JCG (asker) Sep 26, 2006:
I have excatly the same problem. The main doubt is the difference between "gainée" and "moufflée". I think that "gainée" could be translated as "coated" (definitive coating) and "moufflée" could be a removable coating. But I just guess
Julie Barber Sep 26, 2006:
my tech dictionary has 'drisse' as 'halyard' - it only gives that option ( for aeronaut and naut).

Proposed translations

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sheathed and single whip (no purchase/not doubled)

Braided: or sheathed rope, as it is commonly called in the US is actually two ropes, one inside the other. It is very pliable and resists twists and kinks ...
www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1030/bmc/c8.htm

2 sheathed cap shrouds - 2 sheathed lower shrouds - 2 mainsail lazy-jacks. RUNNING RIGGING - 1 mainsail halyard with 2:1 purchase - 1 genoa halyard ...
www.catamarans.com/lagoon/570/570_features.asp

Il a fallu acheter un cable + long car il faut "moufler" c'est à dire doubler le cable pour démultiplier.
www.pneuboat.com/serv-bibl/modules/forum/read.php?id=94888&... - 83k - Résultat complémentaire

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Whip.-- A purchase consisting of one single block.
www2.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/kemp/dictWXYZ.html


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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-09-26 06:43:10 GMT)
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Moufler : Multiplier la force à l’aide d’une ou plusieurs poulies
www.formation-forestiere.ch/fr-ch/formation/download.html?f...

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GREEMENT COURANT
• 1 Drisse de GV spectra mouflée
• 1 Drisse de Génois spectra
• 1 écoute de GV pré-étirée
• 2 écoutes de Génois pré-étirées
• 3 bosses de ris pré-étirées
• 1 manœuvre d'enrouleur pré-étiré
• 2 réglages de chariot de GV pré-étirés

RUNNING RIGGING
• 1 double-purchase spectra mainsail halyard
• 1 spectra genoa halyard
• 1 mainsail sheet
• 2 genoa sheets
• 3 mainsail reefing lines
• 1 genoa furling line
• 2 mainsail traveler car control lines
http://www.cata-lagoon.com/pdf/Lagoon440_09_2005.pdf.

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http://www.cordalpes.com/en/range/halyards.htm

http://www.cordalpes.com/fr/gammes/drisses.htm
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COMMENT only, NFG

Mactrad's answer is very interesting, and certainly seems on the face of it to be correct (though I don't have the experience of the terms in FR to be qualified to 'agree', sorry!)

But I still get this nagging feeling that it seems odd to be talking here (though we have so little context to go on...) about single-purchase etc.

Just by way of an aside, in case it helps, I did think of 2 other possibilities.

1) Halyards often 'slat' annoyingly against aluminium masts in the wind, and can cause damage. Sometimes, they are sleeved with plastic, or in the oldne days, we used to have sort of woolly things that slipped over them — except that I think these were mainly used on running rigging like backstays, to avoid damage to sails; there's not much you can put on a halyard, as it moves so much when you haul on it!

2) Some halyards are run down inside a groove in the mast, only appearing again at the bottom to be winched. Perhaps this is the meaning of 'gainé' here, and in that case, I could understand it better in connection with 'single-purchase'

HTH!
Peer comment(s):

neutral Graham macLachlan : the woolly things were "baggy-wrinkle" or "bag o' wrinkle", yes the sheath may not be part of the rope's construction, difficult to say more, also in the yottie world "drisse" is often used as a synonym for "rope" whatever its particular employement
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Thanks, Mac, that's really helpful! I had my suspicions about 'drisses', but am not familiar enough with the colloquial use...
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