Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
brique (emballage alimentaire)
English translation:
tetra pak
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Jul 28, 2012 13:51
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French term
brique (emballage alimentaire)
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Tri sélectif de déchets
Dans la phrase :
Vous devez mettre dans les containers à couvercle jaune : boîtes de conserves, cannettes, aérosols, briques, etc...
Merci !
Vous devez mettre dans les containers à couvercle jaune : boîtes de conserves, cannettes, aérosols, briques, etc...
Merci !
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | tetra pak |
B D Finch
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| 4 +1 | carton package |
Cyril B.
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| 4 -1 | brick pack |
rkillings
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References
| Tetrapak, -brik |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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Proposed translations
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4 mins
Selected
tetra pak
http://www.pays-iroise.com/fr//vivre-en-iroise/les-dechets/l...
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Note added at 5 mins (2012-07-28 13:56:55 GMT)
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Though that is, a brand name, the alternative "carton" covers too wide a range of packaging.
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Note added at 5 mins (2012-07-28 13:57:27 GMT)
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Omit first comma in the above!
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Note added at 23 mins (2012-07-28 14:15:25 GMT)
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"Food and drink cartons" would be possible if you really wanted to avoid the brand name. While this would also cover the sort of things that are open-topped and "brique" is specifically the sort that is not open-topped, in the context it is only used as an example of what you can put in the bin.
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Note added at 2 days19 hrs (2012-07-31 09:11:18 GMT)
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I have realised that one of the important things about this type of pack is that, unlike run-of-the-mill cartons, the tetrapaks were once not considered suitable for recycling because of the lining material, but now they are accepted for recycling.
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Note added at 5 mins (2012-07-28 13:56:55 GMT)
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Though that is, a brand name, the alternative "carton" covers too wide a range of packaging.
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Note added at 5 mins (2012-07-28 13:57:27 GMT)
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Omit first comma in the above!
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Note added at 23 mins (2012-07-28 14:15:25 GMT)
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"Food and drink cartons" would be possible if you really wanted to avoid the brand name. While this would also cover the sort of things that are open-topped and "brique" is specifically the sort that is not open-topped, in the context it is only used as an example of what you can put in the bin.
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Note added at 2 days19 hrs (2012-07-31 09:11:18 GMT)
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I have realised that one of the important things about this type of pack is that, unlike run-of-the-mill cartons, the tetrapaks were once not considered suitable for recycling because of the lining material, but now they are accepted for recycling.
Note from asker:
| Thank you for your explanations! |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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brick pack
The linguistic equivalent of 'brique' in French here -- a lowercase descriptive that could never be trademarked as a brand name -- is simply "brick pack" in English.
If the source makes no reference to Tetra Pak, why would the target?
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"brique. 4. Emballage parallélépipédique utilisé pour certaines denrées alimentaires" (http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/brique)
A brique is a brique is a brick (pack) -- if it has the required shape and the rigidity to stack like a brick. Doesn't matter whether the contents are liquid or dry solids (such as ground coffee:
http://www.covimcaffe.it/2011/gold-arabica_bar-fr.htm
or rice:
http://www.tradeinfr.com/product-packaging-machinery/dcs-5f2...
Not all briques are "briques UHT" -- the kind with the wrapper made of laminated paper, aluminium and plastic that can go in the recycling bin.
If the source makes no reference to Tetra Pak, why would the target?
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Note added at 5 hrs (2012-07-28 19:44:30 GMT)
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"brique. 4. Emballage parallélépipédique utilisé pour certaines denrées alimentaires" (http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/brique)
A brique is a brique is a brick (pack) -- if it has the required shape and the rigidity to stack like a brick. Doesn't matter whether the contents are liquid or dry solids (such as ground coffee:
http://www.covimcaffe.it/2011/gold-arabica_bar-fr.htm
or rice:
http://www.tradeinfr.com/product-packaging-machinery/dcs-5f2...
Not all briques are "briques UHT" -- the kind with the wrapper made of laminated paper, aluminium and plastic that can go in the recycling bin.
Reference:
http://www.amazon.com/Cafe-Bustelo-Brick-Pack-10/dp/B004V4VCJY
http://pdf.directindustry.com/pdf/rovema-gmbh/brick-pack-machine-sbs/23703-57187.html
Note from asker:
| Thanks! |
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: The "brick pack" illustrated are sealed bag packaging which is not wha a "brique" or "cartonnette" is. Other examples may confirm your suggestion but yours are not a good match for the French. A brand name may work in Fr, not in En and vice-versa.
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carton package
That's the generic term, as used by Tetra Pak itself. An alternative to using the brand name...
http://www.tetrapak.com/packages/Pages/default.aspx
http://www.tetrapak.com/packages/Pages/default.aspx
Note from asker:
| Thanks! |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: I suggested "carton", using the same reference in my reference 9 hours before you posted this one as an answer.//Le "uh?" est impoli, mais pour répondre, "carton" seul//No, I'm not "claiming" anything; pointing out already suggested to Asker in ref post.
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Uh? // The 'uh?' was a short and still polite way to say "Are you seriously going to claim any and all answers containing 'carton' because you mentioned that word in some comment (it's not even your answer...)? Seriously?"
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cc in nyc
: with you re: "carton" since Nikki hasn't posted it
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Reference comments
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Native in English
Psychologist, Court-certified legal
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English
Related KudoZ points
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20
Reference:
Tetrapak, -brik
Valid points made by BD Finch, that the "pak" is general and that the "brik" is open topped, for liquids, drinks, yoghurts, soups etc.
http://www.ecoemballages.fr/accueil-portail/le-tri-selectif/
And see also "cartonnettes" which includes the famous "briques" :
http://www.canton-quingey.fr/images/CCQcal11v6-1.jpg
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Note added at 4 hrs (2012-07-28 18:03:20 GMT)
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Going back to "tetra pak" which I commented is actually a tradename and so should be Tetra Pak, that remains true. However, in usage, I stand corrected as Tetra Pak and "tetra pak" seems to be used as Refridgerator and fridge :
Google : ["tetra pak" "types of food packaging"]
Cartons are often used to package food, and are often made of mixed materials (often plastic-lined cardboard or ‘tetra-pak’). Because they mix materials, cartons have the advantage that they often use less material than other types of container as well as being cheaper to produce because they are lighter. Unfortunately, most cartons are single-use only and some types of carton may be difficult to recycle because it is hard to separate the mixed materials.
Here, a Powerpoint from the Consumer Council, see Slide 7, where Tetra Pak is used with capitals, by the way.
For me, "Tetra Pak" "tetra pak" or "carton" would be spot on for the context here. This is a cardboard materials lined with another plastified-type inner. The "brick pack" sources I have found, with one or two, non-original language contexts, are used to describe sealed sachet type packaging in the form of a brick, also, generally for dried vacuum-packed products not for liquid/near-liquid content.
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Sources in the order of appearance :
http://www.dolceta.eu/ireland/Mod5/Packaging.html
www.consumercouncil.org.uk/.../The_Big_Green...
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Note added at 20 hrs (2012-07-29 10:47:13 GMT)
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FRENCH meaning of “brique”:
http://www.smctom-hautedordogne.fr/index.php?id=16
Les briques alimentaires
Les briques permettent de transporter un produit liquide et de le conserver. Une brique est constituée de carton, de plastique et d’aluminium, 3 matériaux différents qu’il faut séparer pour les recycler dans des différentes usines.
Les différentes étapes de la seconde vie des briques alimentaires :
pulpage : séparation du carton des autres composants
épuration et classage : sélection des fibres
formation de feuille de papier
bobinage
http://workgroup.sydeme.fr/site/element_229.php
Une composition hétérogène
Les briques alimentaires sont composées de différents matériaux, à savoir de 75% de papier-carton, 20 % de plastiques et 5% d'aluminium.
Chacune de ses couches a une fonction particulière et font de la brique alimentaire un emballage indispensable. En effet, elle est le seul emballage a pouvoir contenir un liquide (lait, jus, soupe, coulis).
GOOGLE IMAGE search for « brick pack » :
Images of vacuum-packed sachets described as “brick pack” but not corresponding to the French meaning of “brique”.
http://www2.sonoco.com/sonoco/Products/Bags_and_pouches/flx_...
US meaning of “brick pack”
http://www.hotref.com/q/coffee
US site, where all « briick pack » images show vacuum-sealed sachets. Used therefore, but once again, not with the same meaning as the French “brique”.
Idem : http://www.mycubanstore.com/home-and-gifts/Cuban-Coffee-Cuba...
SHANGHAI : « brick pack » used to describe « carton packaging » for liquids, but an erroneous use, not borne out by original British or US English language sources. => Source to be rejected.
http://shskylong.en.alibaba.com/product/581729295-212537832/...
http://shylong.en.ec21.com/offer_detail/Sell_brick_pack--105...
« Brick pack » used as to describe Tetra Pak type carton packaging for liquids. Shanghai based.
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Note added at 21 hrs (2012-07-29 10:53:39 GMT)
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To make myself clear, at the risk of repeating myself, "Tetra Pak" or "carton" are spot on. "Brick pack" is wrong here. It exists, but where it is used, it described the vacuum-sealed packs of coffee for example, dry ingredients in flexible foil/plastic packs which have a brick form. This does not match the French meaning of "brique", which is a carton composed essentially of paper/card, plastic and aluminium and which is used for liquids.
http://www.ecoemballages.fr/accueil-portail/le-tri-selectif/
And see also "cartonnettes" which includes the famous "briques" :
http://www.canton-quingey.fr/images/CCQcal11v6-1.jpg
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Note added at 4 hrs (2012-07-28 18:03:20 GMT)
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Going back to "tetra pak" which I commented is actually a tradename and so should be Tetra Pak, that remains true. However, in usage, I stand corrected as Tetra Pak and "tetra pak" seems to be used as Refridgerator and fridge :
Google : ["tetra pak" "types of food packaging"]
Cartons are often used to package food, and are often made of mixed materials (often plastic-lined cardboard or ‘tetra-pak’). Because they mix materials, cartons have the advantage that they often use less material than other types of container as well as being cheaper to produce because they are lighter. Unfortunately, most cartons are single-use only and some types of carton may be difficult to recycle because it is hard to separate the mixed materials.
Here, a Powerpoint from the Consumer Council, see Slide 7, where Tetra Pak is used with capitals, by the way.
For me, "Tetra Pak" "tetra pak" or "carton" would be spot on for the context here. This is a cardboard materials lined with another plastified-type inner. The "brick pack" sources I have found, with one or two, non-original language contexts, are used to describe sealed sachet type packaging in the form of a brick, also, generally for dried vacuum-packed products not for liquid/near-liquid content.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2012-07-28 18:05:20 GMT)
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Sources in the order of appearance :
http://www.dolceta.eu/ireland/Mod5/Packaging.html
www.consumercouncil.org.uk/.../The_Big_Green...
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Note added at 20 hrs (2012-07-29 10:47:13 GMT)
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FRENCH meaning of “brique”:
http://www.smctom-hautedordogne.fr/index.php?id=16
Les briques alimentaires
Les briques permettent de transporter un produit liquide et de le conserver. Une brique est constituée de carton, de plastique et d’aluminium, 3 matériaux différents qu’il faut séparer pour les recycler dans des différentes usines.
Les différentes étapes de la seconde vie des briques alimentaires :
pulpage : séparation du carton des autres composants
épuration et classage : sélection des fibres
formation de feuille de papier
bobinage
http://workgroup.sydeme.fr/site/element_229.php
Une composition hétérogène
Les briques alimentaires sont composées de différents matériaux, à savoir de 75% de papier-carton, 20 % de plastiques et 5% d'aluminium.
Chacune de ses couches a une fonction particulière et font de la brique alimentaire un emballage indispensable. En effet, elle est le seul emballage a pouvoir contenir un liquide (lait, jus, soupe, coulis).
GOOGLE IMAGE search for « brick pack » :
Images of vacuum-packed sachets described as “brick pack” but not corresponding to the French meaning of “brique”.
http://www2.sonoco.com/sonoco/Products/Bags_and_pouches/flx_...
US meaning of “brick pack”
http://www.hotref.com/q/coffee
US site, where all « briick pack » images show vacuum-sealed sachets. Used therefore, but once again, not with the same meaning as the French “brique”.
Idem : http://www.mycubanstore.com/home-and-gifts/Cuban-Coffee-Cuba...
SHANGHAI : « brick pack » used to describe « carton packaging » for liquids, but an erroneous use, not borne out by original British or US English language sources. => Source to be rejected.
http://shskylong.en.alibaba.com/product/581729295-212537832/...
http://shylong.en.ec21.com/offer_detail/Sell_brick_pack--105...
« Brick pack » used as to describe Tetra Pak type carton packaging for liquids. Shanghai based.
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Note added at 21 hrs (2012-07-29 10:53:39 GMT)
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To make myself clear, at the risk of repeating myself, "Tetra Pak" or "carton" are spot on. "Brick pack" is wrong here. It exists, but where it is used, it described the vacuum-sealed packs of coffee for example, dry ingredients in flexible foil/plastic packs which have a brick form. This does not match the French meaning of "brique", which is a carton composed essentially of paper/card, plastic and aluminium and which is used for liquids.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
cc in nyc
: Look like cartons to me ;-)
Why not post it as an Answer?
(Sorry to be so late; Category "Other" didn't reel me in)
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