Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
instortpot
English translation:
embedded or in-slab duct(work) fitting/connector/pot
Added to glossary by
Jack den Haan
Aug 13, 2020 06:33
4 yrs ago
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Dutch term
instortpot
Dutch to English
Tech/Engineering
Mechanics / Mech Engineering
ventilation systems
I can't quote my client's text in this case, but here is a photo from elsewhere:
https://ocuengineering.nl/product/gegalvaniseerde-instortpot...
And here is a description from another website:
"Tevens worden er bij instortkanalen gebruik gemaakt van zogenaamde instortpotten. Deze worden hoofdzakelijk gebruikt om een overgang te maken van een horizontaal kanaal (Ø 80 mm) in de vloer naar een verticale aftakking in de ruimte, ten behoeve van, bijvoorbeeld, het aansluiten van een afzuig- en/of toevoerventiel in de desbetreffende ruimte."
https://velu.nl/_files/file/velu/catalogs/Velu_H5_Technische...
Thanks for any assistance!
https://ocuengineering.nl/product/gegalvaniseerde-instortpot...
And here is a description from another website:
"Tevens worden er bij instortkanalen gebruik gemaakt van zogenaamde instortpotten. Deze worden hoofdzakelijk gebruikt om een overgang te maken van een horizontaal kanaal (Ø 80 mm) in de vloer naar een verticale aftakking in de ruimte, ten behoeve van, bijvoorbeeld, het aansluiten van een afzuig- en/of toevoerventiel in de desbetreffende ruimte."
https://velu.nl/_files/file/velu/catalogs/Velu_H5_Technische...
Thanks for any assistance!
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Sep 4, 2020 09:16: Jack den Haan Created KOG entry
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embedded or in-slab duct(work) fitting/connector/pot
Think I got it wrong with my first answer (collection or collector pipe/duct/pot/piece). Checking your references and other information, the term 'instort' does not seem to refer to air flow processes but to the suitability of the part concerned for embedding in concrete floors and other structures.
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A variation on this terminology is 'imbedment'. See https://theconstructor.org/concrete/embedments-reinforced-co... .
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Oops: embedment!
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By the way, if the notion of embedding the part in concrete or whatever is correct, I guess my suggestion of an embedded part should have read 'embeddable'.
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You're welcome, Ruth. Not a bad idea in this case, I think, to translate the term in a completely different way.
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A variation on this terminology is 'imbedment'. See https://theconstructor.org/concrete/embedments-reinforced-co... .
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Oops: embedment!
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By the way, if the notion of embedding the part in concrete or whatever is correct, I guess my suggestion of an embedded part should have read 'embeddable'.
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You're welcome, Ruth. Not a bad idea in this case, I think, to translate the term in a completely different way.
Note from asker:
Yes, I now have enough information to confirm definitely that "instort" refers to the possibility of embedding the ductwork in concrete — or in other words, concrete can be "poured" around it. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Much appreciated, Jack!"
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diverter // deflector // guide piece
my suggestion
I'll come up with some references, too
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or fitting
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Amazon has it, unfortunately I can only find it on the German site:
https://www.amazon.de/Umlenkstück-rund-eckig-Abluftkanal-Lüf...
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This would argue for 'diverter duct':
https://www.us-duct.com/special-duct-fabrications/diverter-v...
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http://www.ductincorporated.com/diverters.html
I'll come up with some references, too
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or fitting
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Amazon has it, unfortunately I can only find it on the German site:
https://www.amazon.de/Umlenkstück-rund-eckig-Abluftkanal-Lüf...
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This would argue for 'diverter duct':
https://www.us-duct.com/special-duct-fabrications/diverter-v...
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http://www.ductincorporated.com/diverters.html
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collection or collector pipe/duct/pot/piece
The English version of the first site you mention (ocuenginerring.nl) translates 'instortpot' as both 'collapsing pot' and 'pouring pot' I doubt whether these translations are correct.
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@Asker: Sorry Ruth, something went wrong with that first link. Here's another go: https://www.freepik.com/premium-vector/steel-pipe-fittings-p... .
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@Asker: You're welcome, Ruth!
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@Asker: Sorry Ruth, something went wrong with that first link. Here's another go: https://www.freepik.com/premium-vector/steel-pipe-fittings-p... .
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@Asker: You're welcome, Ruth!
Reference:
Note from asker:
Thanks for your answer, Jack. I think it’s called an "instortpot" because it is used with "instortkanalen". "Instortkanaal" likewise tends to be automatically translated as "collapse channel", but it is actually a "galvanised flat duct". (Unfortunately your first link is coming up as an error for me; I'm not sure why!) |
Thanks, Jack; it's working now! |
Discussion
Thanks again for all contributions for this tricky term!
Here's another attempt: https://tinyurl.com/yyrz7clq
Hope that works!
(It's page 3 - not sure whether that link will take you straight to the diagram.)
https://www.airspiralo.com/media/documents/Leaflet_AS_NL_luc...
The "instortpotten" actually seem to be fairly distinctive in design — always basically the same as the photo I linked to. (A very slight variation appears here: https://www.ventilatiedeal.nl/instortpot-o125mm-hoogte-70mm-...
The "T-piece" on the Air Spiralo website does look like the right thing, but my source text lists "T stukken" separately from "instortpotten".