Aug 12, 2006 08:47
18 yrs ago
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English term

Live or Die

May offend English to Latin Other Slang moto
I actually want a whole phrase please, which is for a persons joke moto for a book:

'Live or Die, Motherfucker'

Apologies for the question, it's what I've been asked to find! The closest equivalent will do. The live or die part is that they have been given a choice, which is a matter of life or death. Thanks
Proposed translations (Latin)
5 +3 vive aut morere, (o) fututor matrum

Discussion

Joseph Brazauskas Aug 12, 2006:
Yes, in my opinion, the clausula, as suggested by William, is more euphonious.
Julie Barber (asker) Aug 12, 2006:
thanks Joseph! so to get this straight (not speaking any latin) the better alternative would be:
vive aut morere, o matrum defututor

? thanks

Proposed translations

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vive aut morere, (o) fututor matrum

'Aut' ('or') indicates that only one or the other alternative is acceptable, 'vel' (also = 'or') that either alternative is acceptable.

The 'o' is not obligatory, but common with vocatives, particularly with those which lack a distinct case ending.

'Matrum' ('of mothers') is an objective genitive dependent on 'fututor', 'fucker', from 'futuere', 'to fuck'. A stronger word for 'fucker' would be 'defututor', from 'defutuere', 'to fuck down, i.e., constantly or vigourously.
Peer comment(s):

agree Deschant
1 hr
Thank you, Eva.
agree William Short : notwithstanding the meaning, "matrum defutator" has a nice ring to it.
4 hrs
I agree that 'matrum defututor' forms a rather more pleasant clausula. Good suggestion!
agree Leonardo Marcello Pignataro (X) : What about a singular "matris", since the abusive meaning of "motherfucker" originally refers to incest and "mater una est"? :-) Have a good day, inter eruditos doctissime!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "thanks Joseph...I like the 'nice ring to it' comment ..."
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