Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

extra-systemic teacher

English answer:

Teachers who are not part of the standard education curriculum

Added to glossary by Anna Maria Augustine (X)
Dec 26, 2006 13:28
17 yrs ago
English term

extra-systemic teacher

English Social Sciences Education / Pedagogy
Term in a list of occupations probably for a job-brokerage site. I am translating it into Finnish.

There are:
Extra-systemic art, drama or music teacher
Extra-systemic language teacher
Extra-systemic sports teacher

What does 'extra-systemic' mean.

Does it refer to

1) voluntary subject in the school or

2) pirvate teacher

Google hints that the expression is mostly used in Australia, but refuses to give any detailed description.
Change log

Dec 26, 2006 14:42: Steffen Walter changed "Term asked" from "Extra-systemic teacher" to "extra-systemic teacher"

Discussion

Anna Maria Augustine (X) Dec 27, 2006:
Thank you Timo.

Responses

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Te'achers who are not part of the standard education curriculum

This term only applies to Australia.

It does not concern reading, writing, maths, etc.

Extra -curricular activities teachers would be closest:
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/0/427E828CD5C32EDACA...
Peer comment(s):

agree Ian Davies : Yes, I think extra-curricular teacher is probably closest.
8 hrs
Thank you
agree ErichEko ⟹⭐ : The subjects mentioned (arts, foreign lang, certain sports) are extracurrircular activities.
16 hrs
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teacher who teaches without having gone through the system: all the normal courses for teachers

This would be based partly on their basic education (the Australian example in the web link requires at least a BA) and partly on their work/professional experience, which is considered to be of value within the school system.


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Note added at 22 mins (2006-12-26 13:51:24 GMT)
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NOTE: these may be extra-curricular subjects at times, but no always. See hamo's comment about temporary vacancies. The main point here is that they did not follow the normal system, whether into a teaching career, or as simply extra-curricular teachers.

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supply teacher (UK/Hong Kong) | substitute teacher (US)

A secondary school teacher who is employed by the host educational system to fill temporary vacancies among permanent staff. It likely applies to primary school as well, but there is no evidence for this in the document provided.

See page 173 of the referenced document.

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Note added at 23 mins (2006-12-26 13:51:33 GMT)
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I certainly would not conclude, as at least one contributor has done, that the term is unique to the Australian education system. I have provided you with the closest English language equivalents for both the British (Hong Kong) and US systems of education.
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I think, neither

Judging by some job description pages, this is a teaching position "Not Elsewhere Classified", i.e. "Other".

http://www.liveinaustralia.com/457/visa_descriptions_eligibi...

I believe this position may be "private", i.e. outside of school system / teachers union, or "in the union". The important distinction seems to be in subjects taught (dance, dressmaking, crafts, etc., i.e. outside of the standard structured curriculum).



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Note added at 27 mins (2006-12-26 13:56:25 GMT)
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I guess they must be outside the "school system", i.e. teachers union.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Ian Davies : I don't think it's got anything to do with being in a union, Alexander. The subjects taught are probably not offered at particular schools and therefore have to be taught by teachers who are qualified but private, i.e. not part of the Dept. of Education
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Which "outside of school system" above covers too. However, you must definitely know the Australian school system better.
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