Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Persian (Farsi) term or phrase:
علت موجده و معدّه
English translation:
primary and secondary reasons
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Edward Plaisance Jr
Apr 16, 2013 12:14
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Persian (Farsi) term
Native in: Persian (Farsi) 
Works in: Persian (Farsi) to English, English to Persian (Farsi)
علت موجده و معدّه
Persian (Farsi) to English
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از این رو توده مردم هم علت موجده ی انقلاب و هم علت معدّه ی آن بودند
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Apr 30, 2013 02:53: Edward Plaisance Jr Created KOG entry
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Edward Plaisance Jr
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primary and secondary reasons
I think this is the clearest way to translate these terms. It is true they can have religious connotations, but that is not the context here. Based on the definitions in my dictionaries, this is what I would propose.
We could also say: primary and subsidiary reasons or primary and continuing reasons
We could also say: primary and subsidiary reasons or primary and continuing reasons
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Zeynab Tajik
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Enough and complementary reasons
موجده means "enough". معدّه means "extra; more; additional; complementary".
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Ehsan Karimi
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Persian (Farsi) term (edited):
علت موجده و معدّه
existence and preparatory cause (This context: the first and the existence cause of revolution)
It's an Islamic term. موجده means creator and معده means preparator.
When the effect is created علت موجده is needed for effect existence while علت معده is no more needed.
Note: It's different from the first cause. however we can use the first cause instead of preparatory cause in this context!
For more information see this links:
http://www.hawzah.net/fa/question/questionview/62386
http://www.sayyedrazishirazi.ir/Blog/ViewPost.aspx?pageid=57...
http://www.pajoohe.com/fa/index.php?Page=definition&UID=4150...
When the effect is created علت موجده is needed for effect existence while علت معده is no more needed.
Note: It's different from the first cause. however we can use the first cause instead of preparatory cause in this context!
For more information see this links:
http://www.hawzah.net/fa/question/questionview/62386
http://www.sayyedrazishirazi.ir/Blog/ViewPost.aspx?pageid=57...
http://www.pajoohe.com/fa/index.php?Page=definition&UID=4150...
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