Apr 19, 2016 09:46
9 yrs ago
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German term
Abdankung
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funeral notice
What is the difference please between Abschied and Abdankung?
funeral and memorial service?
context:
Notice informing:
death on 15 April
Abschied on 21 April
Abdankung in 13 May, both at same church.
If you know what these services involve I'd be grateful for help! Thanks
funeral and memorial service?
context:
Notice informing:
death on 15 April
Abschied on 21 April
Abdankung in 13 May, both at same church.
If you know what these services involve I'd be grateful for help! Thanks
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memorial service
I attended a funeral in Switzerland. They tend to have the service at the grave before the service in church or at the cemetery chapel.
First the urn or coffin is committed to the grave, then the service to celebrate the life of the deceased takes place.
Also, the term Abdankung is specifically Swiss and not used in Germany.
First the urn or coffin is committed to the grave, then the service to celebrate the life of the deceased takes place.
Also, the term Abdankung is specifically Swiss and not used in Germany.
Peer comment(s):
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Andrea Garfield-Barkworth
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oa_xxx (X)
: Abdankung is a funeral not a memorial service,please note the dates, the Abschied takes place long before the Abdankung! Ps the link you provided says that the Abdankungsfeier takes place in the church before the burial!
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Eleanore Strauss
: Orla is correct. Abdankung is the Swiss term for funeral service, and is not a memorial service, which would be a Gedenkfeier or similar.
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monbuckland
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Difference betwen funeral and memorial service
When it comes to funeral terminology the most commonly misunderstood terms are Funeral Service and Memorial Service.
A Funeral Service is a service held to memorialize a deceased person with their body present.
A Memorial Service is a service held to memorialize a deceased person with their body not present.
A Funeral Service is a service held to memorialize a deceased person with their body present.
A Memorial Service is a service held to memorialize a deceased person with their body not present.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Ramey Rieger (X)
: A funereal is also most likely to be held at a cemetary, whereas a memorial service is not.
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Thanks Ramey
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oa_xxx (X)
: This has nothing to do with Abschied and Abdankung, where the body is present for both
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Eleanore Strauss
: Sorry - agree with Orla. I lived in Switzerland for many years. Abdankung is a funeral service.
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Reference:
Abdankung(sfeier)
Sie [die Beerdigung] beginnt mit der Abdankungsfeier in einer Kirche oder einer Trauerhalle, bei der der Sarg oder die Urne aufgebahrt und mit Blumen geschmückt wird. In der Feier, die religiös oder weltlich gestaltet werden kann, wird noch einmal durch einen Pfarrer oder weltlichen Trauerredner des Verstorbenen gedacht und alle Anwesenden können ihren persönlichen Abschied nehmen. Dort kann man auch der Familie kondolieren oder selbst einige Abschiedsworte sprechen.
Anschliessend begleiten die Trauergäste den Sarg zum Grab, an dem noch einige Worte gesprochen werden, ehe der Sarg oder die Urne der Erde übergeben werden.
Anschliessend begleiten die Trauergäste den Sarg zum Grab, an dem noch einige Worte gesprochen werden, ehe der Sarg oder die Urne der Erde übergeben werden.
Discussion
Could Abschied be cremation and Abdankung be funeral and committal (of the ashes to their final resting place in the churchyard or cemetery)?