Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Latin term or phrase:
virtus propter se
English translation:
virtue (valor) for itself
Added to glossary by
Ino66 (X)
Feb 28, 2003 16:31
21 yrs ago
Latin term
isaiah ratliff
virtus propter se
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Latin to English
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the ratliff war cry and motto on the coat of arm's
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +5 | Virtue for itself |
Ino66 (X)
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| 5 +3 | Courage for its own sake |
Chris Rowson (X)
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Proposed translations
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Ino66 (X)
Ino66 (X)
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Virtue for itself
word-for-word rendition
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Note added at 2003-02-28 16:38:41 (GMT)
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Please note than in Roman civilization, \"virtue\" had no connotations of Christian theology but was related to \"vir\" (= L for \"man\"), i.e. to courage, prowess, and high moral standards.
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Note added at 2003-02-28 16:40:27 (GMT)
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Also note the well-know saying: VIRTUS PROPTER SE AMANDA EST = Virtue should be loved (i.e. sought after) for itself.
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Note added at 2003-02-28 16:42:25 (GMT)
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Also note the well-know saying: VIRTUS PROPTER SE AMANDA EST = Virtue should be loved (i.e. sought after) for itself.
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Note added at 2003-02-28 16:38:41 (GMT)
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Please note than in Roman civilization, \"virtue\" had no connotations of Christian theology but was related to \"vir\" (= L for \"man\"), i.e. to courage, prowess, and high moral standards.
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Note added at 2003-02-28 16:40:27 (GMT)
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Also note the well-know saying: VIRTUS PROPTER SE AMANDA EST = Virtue should be loved (i.e. sought after) for itself.
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Note added at 2003-02-28 16:42:25 (GMT)
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Also note the well-know saying: VIRTUS PROPTER SE AMANDA EST = Virtue should be loved (i.e. sought after) for itself.
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+3
2 hrs
Courage for its own sake
As Ino says, the Latin word "virtue" means in English courage, bravery, and other such concepts, essentially manliness. So I don´t think "virtue" is a very good translation, and not what the bearers of the coat of arms had in mind. THey were thinking of bravery, manliness, strength.
I put "Courage" in my proposal for the sake of the rhythm. Maybe bravery would be better for meaning, but I didn´t find a way to make it work as a motto, and still less as a war cry.
I put "Courage" in my proposal for the sake of the rhythm. Maybe bravery would be better for meaning, but I didn´t find a way to make it work as a motto, and still less as a war cry.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Rod Darby (X)
: I have to say that yours is the better translation
14 hrs
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| agree |
Joseph Brazauskas
23 hrs
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| agree |
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