Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
резюмироваться
English translation:
resonating therein
Added to glossary by
Susan Welsh
May 7, 2015 18:32
9 yrs ago
Russian term
United States
Psychology, economics, politics
Native in: English 
Works in: Russian to English, German to English, English
резюмироваться
Russian to English
Social Sciences
Psychology
children - Vygotsky
Leontiev talking about his own doubts about Vygotsky's shift to a second phase of his theory, which emphasized the "sign":
Общение есть обобщение, требует обобщения. Иначе говоря, это сомнение заключалось в том, что мы как бы возвращаемся к схеме: общественное сознание строит индивидуальное сознание. Индивидуальное сознание, в свою очередь, обогащает общественное сознание, **в нем резюмируясь.** Получается замкнутый круг. Классический круг, скажем, французского психологического социологизма. В этом заключалось мое основное возражение.
The usual translations, "to summarize," "to abstract," don't work at all.
Thanks!
Общение есть обобщение, требует обобщения. Иначе говоря, это сомнение заключалось в том, что мы как бы возвращаемся к схеме: общественное сознание строит индивидуальное сознание. Индивидуальное сознание, в свою очередь, обогащает общественное сознание, **в нем резюмируясь.** Получается замкнутый круг. Классический круг, скажем, французского психологического социологизма. В этом заключалось мое основное возражение.
The usual translations, "to summarize," "to abstract," don't work at all.
Thanks!
Proposed translations
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| 3 +2 | resonating therein |
The Misha
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| 4 +3 | generalize |
Alla_K
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| 4 | to join together |
Elena Va
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| 3 +1 | recapitulates |
Donald Jacobson
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| 3 | is reproduced |
Vaddy Peters
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| 2 -1 | resuming therein |
Irina Kuzminskaya
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Proposed translations
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resonating therein
Or in it. This is not, strictly speaking, Russian. This is what in the old times they used to call otsutstviye partiynoy distsipliny na mestakh. I say use the above on the strength of the rhythm and similar phonics. The meaning is somewhere there too. I really, really don't envy you this job.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Sounds right to me. "
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is reproduced
Civic Education (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
plato.stanford.edu/entries/civic-education/
27 дек. 2007 г. - 2.1 Amy Gutmann: Conscious Social Reproduction; 2.2 William Galston: .... interest of every individual may be a centinel over the public rights. ... (amour propre), which in turn can produce envy, pride, and greed. ..... [S]ocial diversity enriches our lives by expanding our understanding of differing ways of life.
AN INTRODUCTION TO MARX'S THEORY OF ALIENATION
pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj79/cox.htm
The new-fangled sources of wealth, by some strange weird spell, are turned into sources ... He explained how, because we act on nature consciously, we build on our ... the process of creating and reproducing their material life, hence also limited ... In Capital Marx described how 'the social relations between individuals in ...
plato.stanford.edu/entries/civic-education/
27 дек. 2007 г. - 2.1 Amy Gutmann: Conscious Social Reproduction; 2.2 William Galston: .... interest of every individual may be a centinel over the public rights. ... (amour propre), which in turn can produce envy, pride, and greed. ..... [S]ocial diversity enriches our lives by expanding our understanding of differing ways of life.
AN INTRODUCTION TO MARX'S THEORY OF ALIENATION
pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj79/cox.htm
The new-fangled sources of wealth, by some strange weird spell, are turned into sources ... He explained how, because we act on nature consciously, we build on our ... the process of creating and reproducing their material life, hence also limited ... In Capital Marx described how 'the social relations between individuals in ...
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to join together
здесь взяла бы to join together
NB
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to get involved in...))
По принципу: the deeper one gets into smth, the more involved it becomes)))
NB
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to get involved in...))
По принципу: the deeper one gets into smth, the more involved it becomes)))
Peer comment(s):
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The Misha
: Where does it say "join" and how do you propose to work this into the sentence?
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25 mins
Irina Kuzminskaya
United States
United States
Native in Russian
United States
20 yrs of medical and legal translations
Native in: Russian (Variant: Standard-Russia)
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, Turkish to Russian, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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6
resuming therein
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Peer comment(s):
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The Misha
: Resuming from where? After what? You are simply dragging the bad usage in the original into your translation.
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generalize
Social consciousness is generalized individual consciousness.
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Social consciousness is summarized and generalized individual consciousness.
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The above link is to synonyms to the word "резюмировать".
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Social consciousness is summarized and generalized individual consciousness.
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http://www.synonymizer.ru/index.php?sword=������������
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The above link is to synonyms to the word "резюмировать".
Note from asker:
| I already used "generalize" for обобщение two sentences previously. :-( |
Peer comment(s):
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The Misha
: That may be so, but it's not what the original says.
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The original says "резюмируясь" (резюмироваться = обобщаться, see my link to the synonyms to "резюмироваться") And the source text is about generalization of individual consciousness (of many people) into social consciousness.
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Irina Kuzminskaya
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Спасибо, Ирина :)
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Rachel Douglas
: I think this is on the right track. Look up "individual" and "generalized" in the book Culture, Communication, and Cognition: Vygotskian Perspectives by James V. Wertsch (pages 74 and 92). Google Books has it.
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Thank you for checking with the Wertsch's book, Rachel.
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cyhul
9 hrs
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Thank you, colleague!
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1 hr
Donald Jacobson
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Neuropsychiatrist(MD) German(MA)
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: German to English, Russian to English, Swedish to English
Related KudoZ points
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100
recapitulates
As a first step to unpack this confusion, Egan suggests that we reframe the debate. Rather than debating back and forth between the Platonic program (the “great books”, e.g.) and the “intertwined means and ends” approach of the child-centered, experiential program (a la Rousseau and Dewey), Egan offers a way out – a revamped theory of recapitulation blended with insights of the Russian psychologist Lev Vygotsky. In this way, as we shall see below, recapitulation provides a useful framework for rethinking the goals and methods of education and human development. “Education”, proposes Egan, “…can best be understood as a process in which the individual recapitulates the kinds of understanding developed in the culture’s history (p.73).”
The 21st Century Learning Initiative ~ Review: The Educated Mind
www.21learn.org › archive › review-the-...
To identify what exactly is recapitulated in the developing individual, Egan turns to Vygotsky. Vygotsky's notion is that ...
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The Biologising of Childhood: Developmental Psychology and the ...
https://books.google.com › books
John R. Morss - 1990 - Psychology
Thus the theory of recapitulation reappeared even in the context of highly functionalist ... But the more direct heir to the Biihler approach was the developmentalist to whom we now turn: Lev Vygotsky.
The 21st Century Learning Initiative ~ Review: The Educated Mind
www.21learn.org › archive › review-the-...
To identify what exactly is recapitulated in the developing individual, Egan turns to Vygotsky. Vygotsky's notion is that ...
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-05-07 19:56:25 GMT)
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The Biologising of Childhood: Developmental Psychology and the ...
https://books.google.com › books
John R. Morss - 1990 - Psychology
Thus the theory of recapitulation reappeared even in the context of highly functionalist ... But the more direct heir to the Biihler approach was the developmentalist to whom we now turn: Lev Vygotsky.
Note from asker:
| Thanks, but from your references, this pertains to a specific theory (ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny) to which Vygotsky did not subscribe, as Morss writes on p. 59. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
LilianNekipelov
: Definitely, but it might be too figurative here.
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Thank you, Lilian!
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