Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
институт сочуствующих
English translation:
body of sympathizers
Added to glossary by
Vladimir Dubisskiy
Apr 24, 2005 19:54
19 yrs ago
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Russian term
институт сочуствующих
Russian to English
Social Sciences
Government / Politics
Stalin asks Indian Communist leaders: Есть ли в индийской компартии институт сочуствующих. and two Indians reply: Нет, у нас только члены партии.
The use of в seems preclude the idea of an allied political group; rather, whatever Stalin has in mind would be inside the Party, but translating the word as "institution" doesn't seem to shed any light. There is no other context to indicate what Stalin meant.
The use of в seems preclude the idea of an allied political group; rather, whatever Stalin has in mind would be inside the Party, but translating the word as "institution" doesn't seem to shed any light. There is no other context to indicate what Stalin meant.
Proposed translations
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| 5 | body of sympathizers |
Vladimir Dubisskiy
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| 5 +5 | explanation |
Blithe
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| 3 +1 | concept? |
Alexander Demyanov
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| 4 | Do u have an institution of allied citizens (or allied political groups)? |
alex11
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Proposed translations
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body of sympathizers
... With the rise of SDS and the FSM, the Old Left peace advocates had discovered a large and vocal ***body of sympathizers***, many of whom had gained experience ...
www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/vietnam/antiwar.html - 25k - Cached - Similar pages
Father Divine: Information From Answers.com
... million followers, but the true figure of adherents was probably a few tens of thousands, and a larger ***body of sympathizers*** who attended his gatherings. ...
www.answers.com/topic/father-divine - 59k - Cached - Similar pages
Funeral Customs: Chapter XI: State and Public Funerals
... the pulpit to pronounce a funeral discourse, a rich burgher of Caen, who was present with a formidable ***body of sympathizers***, demanded a hearing. ...
www.sacred-texts.com/etc/fcod/fcod14.htm
www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/vietnam/antiwar.html - 25k - Cached - Similar pages
Father Divine: Information From Answers.com
... million followers, but the true figure of adherents was probably a few tens of thousands, and a larger ***body of sympathizers*** who attended his gatherings. ...
www.answers.com/topic/father-divine - 59k - Cached - Similar pages
Funeral Customs: Chapter XI: State and Public Funerals
... the pulpit to pronounce a funeral discourse, a rich burgher of Caen, who was present with a formidable ***body of sympathizers***, demanded a hearing. ...
www.sacred-texts.com/etc/fcod/fcod14.htm
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Comment: "Спасибо, Владимир! I do appreciate Blithe's information, but since I know Soviet history pretty well what I needed was a translation and this seems to me to be closest to the mark."
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Russian term (edited):
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concept?
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a concept of sympathizers
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No, \"concept\" is hardly enough. How about:
an establishment of sympathizers
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a concept of sympathizers
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No, \"concept\" is hardly enough. How about:
an establishment of sympathizers
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Do u have an institution of allied citizens (or allied political groups)?
Gary, I would still leave institution, it carries the meaning from my prospective
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explanation
What was called сочувствующие in the first years of the Soviet power were people who were not members of the Communist party, however supported communists (or bolshevicks, as they were called). Later on this word became obsolete, probably because everybody was - or supposed to be:)- supportive.
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oh, yes, and those people should have never belonged to any other party, God forbid, otherwise they were enemies, not supporters.
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For example:
Большевики и им сочувствующие потребовали немедленно вывести взвод солдат из зала заседаний. Но эсеры были за то, чтобы солдаты присутствовали. ...
www.tstu.ru/win/tambov/kirsanov/bighistory/glava6a.html
... Съезд избрал уездный Совет рабочих, солдатских и крестьянских депутатов, в котором главенствующее положение заняли большевики и сочувствующие им. ...
http://kraeved.opck.org/towns/buguruslan/revolution.php
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I\'m sorry, Garry, if it looks like I was giving you a lecture on the Soviet history. I was confused by your remark \"There is no other context to indicate what Stalin meant\"... And it sure was not an answer, since no translation was offered.
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oh, yes, and those people should have never belonged to any other party, God forbid, otherwise they were enemies, not supporters.
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For example:
Большевики и им сочувствующие потребовали немедленно вывести взвод солдат из зала заседаний. Но эсеры были за то, чтобы солдаты присутствовали. ...
www.tstu.ru/win/tambov/kirsanov/bighistory/glava6a.html
... Съезд избрал уездный Совет рабочих, солдатских и крестьянских депутатов, в котором главенствующее положение заняли большевики и сочувствующие им. ...
http://kraeved.opck.org/towns/buguruslan/revolution.php
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I\'m sorry, Garry, if it looks like I was giving you a lecture on the Soviet history. I was confused by your remark \"There is no other context to indicate what Stalin meant\"... And it sure was not an answer, since no translation was offered.
Peer comment(s):
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Anneta Vysotskaya
: supporters or supporters group
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thank you, Anneta
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sokolniki
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thank you, Izabella
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Vladimir Chumak
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thank you, Vladimir
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Levan Namoradze
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thank you, Levan
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Kirill Semenov
: nice explanation :)
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thank you, Kirill
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