tela strappata e sdrucita da logori luoghi comuni

English translation: Against the shredded fabric of this Eternal City...

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Italian term or phrase:	tela strappata e sdrucita da logori luoghi comuni
English translation:	Against the shredded fabric of this Eternal City...
Entered by:	Juliet Halewood (X)

10:50 Apr 1, 2008

Italian to English translations [PRO]
Tourism & Travel / Rome

Italian term or phrase: tela strappata e sdrucita da logori luoghi comuni

Di fronte alla tela strappata e sdrucita da logori luoghi comuni, di una Città Eterna condannata dal pregiudizio, l’eleganza a volte, risiede nelle pietre parlanti, quelle che raccontano favole antiche.

Once again, any help much appreciated!

Juliet Halewood (X) KudoZ activity Questions: 994 (6 open) (6 without valid answers) (66 closed without grading) Answers: 323
Local time: 01:29

Against the shredded fabric of this Eternal City...

Explanation:
Against the shredded fabric of this Eternal City, torn apart by worn clichés, condemned by prejudice, every so often elegance can be discovered in the talking stones, the ones that tell us tales from the past.

Sorry it wouldn't fit above. Another idea

Selected response from:

Nina Taranto
Local time: 01:29

Grading comment

Ninat, thanks, a great help.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

2 +3

Against the shredded fabric of this Eternal City...

Nina Taranto

the ragged fabric torn by worn out common places

Gemma Monco Waters

the torn canvas, unravelled by worn-out clichés

Tom in London

a canvas torn and ruined by tired stereotypes

Monia Di Martino

threadbare canvas worn and torn by hackneyed platitudes

Ernestine Shargool

worn and torn as an old painting by commonplace cliches

Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche

Torn canvass ripped by well-worn platitudes

Gad Kohenov

a canvas that is rent and laid threadbare by old worn out clichés

Paul O'Brien

Discussion entries: 14

Juliet Halewood (X)

ASKER

07:06 Apr 3, 2008

Thanks to all of you for your input (even if it went off track a bit)!

Paul O'Brien

Argentina

19:52 Apr 1, 2008

absolutely. good point. as for the translation we're going with, the answer is simple, dear boy: mine.

Tom in London

United Kingdom

19:49 Apr 1, 2008

I would point out the for the Palestinians, Jerusalem is also the Eternal City. Anyway, what translation are we going with here?

Paul O'Brien

Argentina

19:46 Apr 1, 2008

hey, gad, i'll be mistaken for a jewish mourner, cos, what with translation workloads and all, i haven't shaved for a month. FYO, check out the verb "to rent", as i think it is more apt in the jewish mourning context than "shred" (though i may be wrong).

Gad Kohenov

Israel

19:36 Apr 1, 2008

Gemma. I was stating a fact. Not saying that in this case we are not talking of Rome. The story of Judea Capta is well known. Shredding clothes in indeed the Jewish act of mourning , just like not shaving for a month. I am a tourist guide too. Such texts!

Gemma Monco Waters

Italy

19:25 Apr 1, 2008

Anyway, JulesH has already said they are speaking of Rome. He is also doing a translation about Trieste. The poor boy must be doing any Italian town of importance, which would take him like forever.

Gemma Monco Waters

Italy

19:20 Apr 1, 2008

desertfox, I like you and I respect your faith, but the Romans razed Jerusalem to the ground, not an act to be proud of, but for centuries Jerusalem has only been an idea in the mind of people, while Rome has always been there in the flesh, so to speak.

Paul O'Brien

Argentina

19:08 Apr 1, 2008

yes, jerusalem is what i had in mind with the rented cloth (renting is an act of jewish mourning) and everything in the quotation seems to point to jerusalem. who is speaking like that about rome? completely out of place, IMHO.

Juliet Halewood (X)

ASKER

12:03 Apr 1, 2008

Pauley, it is Rome - it's written in the "write-in field" above.

Gad Kohenov

Israel

11:42 Apr 1, 2008

Actually there are two Eternal Cities. For Jews it's Jerusalem.

Gemma Monco Waters

Italy

11:35 Apr 1, 2008

Dear Pauley, there is only ONE Eternal City.

Paul O'Brien

Argentina

11:06 Apr 1, 2008

i know that rome is known as the eternal city, but here it says "UNA città eterna", which made me think that it was one among many.

Monia Di Martino

Italy

11:00 Apr 1, 2008

It's Rome....la Città Eterna is Rome.

Paul O'Brien

Argentina

10:58 Apr 1, 2008

which city is it? teh "tela" of what? my proposal would differ according to what has been torn and where.

Answers

8 mins confidence:

the torn canvas, unravelled by worn-out clichés

Explanation:
oh boy, this really is "purple prose" !

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It's a pretentious attempt to describe Rome as a painting.

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Note added at 12 mins (2008-04-01 11:02:45 GMT)
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maybe instead of "unravelled" "picked apart" or something might be better

Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:29
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 149

16 mins confidence:

a canvas torn and ruined by tired stereotypes

Explanation:
An option.

Monia Di Martino
Italy
Local time: 01:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Italian
PRO pts in category: 4

28 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

Against the shredded fabric of this Eternal City...

Nina Taranto
Local time: 01:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

Grading comment

Ninat, thanks, a great help.

34 mins confidence:

Torn canvass ripped by well-worn platitudes

Explanation:
Some of the words here have alternatives. For examples platitude can be a commonplace.

Gad Kohenov
Israel
Local time: 02:29
Works in field
Native speaker of:

French,

Hebrew
PRO pts in category: 30

50 mins confidence:

the ragged fabric torn by worn out common places

Explanation:
One among many, all of them good, I must say

Gemma Monco Waters
Italy
Local time: 01:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Italian
PRO pts in category: 6

4 hrs confidence:

threadbare canvas worn and torn by hackneyed platitudes

Explanation:
I agree that it is referring to Rome as a painting, hence 'canvas'.
'Worn and torn' is used for 'distressed' denim and other types of cloth, paper and photographs, etc.

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Ernestine Shargool
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Italian
PRO pts in category: 4

8 hrs confidence:

a canvas that is rent and laid threadbare by old worn out clichés

Explanation:
my proposal.

Paul O'Brien
Argentina
Local time: 20:29
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 51

5 hrs confidence:

worn and torn as an old painting by commonplace cliches

Explanation:
The Eternal City, condemned by pregiudice and worn and torn as an old painting by commonplace cliches

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prejudice

Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
Italy
Local time: 01:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

French
PRO pts in category: 10

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