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Oct 12, 2011 07:52
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Italian term

entrate proprie convenzionali

Italian to English Medical Law: Taxation & Customs
Hello everybody,

how would you translate the following:

Il finanziamento del Fondo Sanitario Nazionale trova le proprie fonti in:
- *entrate proprie convenzionali* e ricavi delle aziende sanitarie.

conventional tax revenues?

Thanks a lot!!
Proposed translations (English)
4 regional taxes (regulated by central government agreements)
4 public funding

Discussion

James (Jim) Davis Oct 12, 2011:
A lot of Italian wiki is stuff that has been just copied and pasted into wiki from elsewhere. I remember clients who when asked for an "opinion" by a UK firm, often pasted in pages of the relevant Italian law. Once I pointed out that it didn't make much sense to pay tax in the first year only and not in subsequent years. They had forgotten to paste in an initial paragraph which contained a crucial "non" and reversed the meaning of the following 3-4 pages. The UK client complained about the "lengthy" opinions, but the Italian tax accountants said they were lazy and didn't want to read.
Thomas Roberts Oct 12, 2011:
I noticed that too I have translated stuff written by lawyers that has been copy-pasted out of wikipedia many a time.....
James (Jim) Davis Oct 12, 2011:
@Anna Just out of curiosity, but are you translating this wiki page:
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servizio_Sanitario_Nazionale_(I... ?
Thomas Roberts Oct 12, 2011:
in this case The convenzione is between the hospital and the region, which is an expense for the region and income for the hospital.
James (Jim) Davis Oct 12, 2011:
I have a feeling this may have something to do with le "convenzioni" which are permanent contractual arrangements with outsourcers for the provision of services, but these would be expenses rather than income.

Proposed translations

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regional taxes (regulated by central government agreements)

I think this is just regional taxation.

DECRETO LEGISLATIVO 6 maggio 2011, n. 68
"2. Nel rispetto della autonomia organizzativa delle regioni nella
scelta delle forme di organizzazione delle attivita' di gestione e di
riscossione, le regioni possono definire con specifico atto
convenzionale, sottoscritto con il Ministero dell'economia e delle
finanze e con l'Agenzia delle entrate, le modalita' gestionali e
operative dei tributi regionali,... "

http://cal.regione.lazio.it/binary/prtl_cons_autonomielocali...
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public funding

This is the revenue paid by the state (region now?) under the terms of the "convenzione" (whereby a public or private hospital is accredited to provide public services that can be reimbursed out of public funds) with the hospital.
Peer comment(s):
neutral James (Jim) Davis : Doesn't make sense the "Fondo Sanitario Nazionale" is "public funding", the central/local government health budget which is funded by IRAP, IRPEF, income from asl (tickets I imagine) and this "entrate proprie convenzionali"
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I think it does: the National Healthcare Fund's resources come from public funding (i.e. general taxation) and hospital revenues (= ticket)
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