May 14, 2004 16:04
20 yrs ago
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Spanish term
United Kingdom
Elegant precision - published writer
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, English, Portuguese to English
bajo secreto de estado
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
History
cultural studies
I just can't think of this term in English - is it simply 'under state secrecy' or 'under state secret'? They don't feel quite right to me.
Any better offers?
'[Operacion Condor] coordinaba bajo secreto de estado, los trabajos de las fuerzas de seguridad de todos los paises del area (...)'
Please excuse the lack of accents - I'm working at an unfamiliar PC!
Any better offers?
'[Operacion Condor] coordinaba bajo secreto de estado, los trabajos de las fuerzas de seguridad de todos los paises del area (...)'
Please excuse the lack of accents - I'm working at an unfamiliar PC!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | a highly secret covert operation |
George Rabel
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| 4 +2 | under the cloak of state secrecy |
David Russell
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| 5 | on a state secret basis |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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| 4 | as a state secret |
Parrot
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| 4 | under the utmost secrecy |
Peter Haden
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| 4 | Under state secrecy |
Ricardo Eid
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| 4 | classified information |
kellyn (X)
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| 3 | Top Secret |
Gabo Pena
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Proposed translations
7 mins
George Rabel
Native in Spanish
TRANSLATIONS THAT READ LIKE ORIGINALS
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
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a highly secret covert operation
Una alternativa para evitar "state secret" ya que no te gusta:
A highly secret covert operation, Operacion Condor coordinated the work of the security forces in all countries in the region.
A highly secret covert operation, Operacion Condor coordinated the work of the security forces in all countries in the region.
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks George - I don't think I will use exactly these words as I think 'highly secret' as well as 'covert' is not really necessary, but I'm playing with ideas that include 'covert', so thanks for putting me on that track! I still think the most obvious translation 'under state secrecy' is not quite right as a quick trawl through Google shows just about no hits for this exact collocation."
4 mins
as a state secret
is the expression that occurs to me.
8 mins
under the utmost secrecy
I don't think you need to use the word 'state' in English, it's really redundant.
7 mins
on a state secret basis
:)
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Note added at 8 mins (2004-05-14 16:12:35 GMT)
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it refers to the law under which they carried out the operation....in my opinion ...
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Note added at 8 mins (2004-05-14 16:12:35 GMT)
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it refers to the law under which they carried out the operation....in my opinion ...
12 mins
Gabo Pena
Native in Spanish
&
English
Works in field
'meaning, intent, demeanor'
Native in: English (Variants: US, Canadian) , Spanish (Variants: Argentine, Venezuelan, Dominican, Mexican, US, Cuban, Canarian, Latin American, Puerto Rican, Costa Rican, Salvadoran)
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, English to French, and 4 more.
Top Secret
8^7
21 mins
Ricardo Eid
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, French to Spanish, and 1 more.
Under state secrecy
Tu primera opción se adecúa al contexto.
+2
2 hrs
David Russell
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Specializes in field
Spain
Quality translation through partnership
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, Catalan to English
under the cloak of state secrecy
Sounds a bit more mysterious!
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Muriel Vasconcellos
: Perfect! I also agree that "state" could be left out.
44 mins
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Thanks Muriel
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| agree |
forli
: disagree with Muriel. "state" is an important word in the context.
15 hrs
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Thanks Forli, I also think state should stay there.
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4 days
classified information
maybe
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