Jul 9, 2004 11:57
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la más interesante de ellas
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Doesn´t this last little part seem to be hanging?
b) El punto de partida es la necesidad de un decisor de seleccionar, entre un conjunto de alternativas posibles y en la mayoría de los casos contrapuestas (estrategias, inversiones, activos, etc.) la más interesante de ellas.
Below I have pasted what I have so far. Any improvements?
a) The starting point is the need for a decision maker when faced with a set of possible mostly-opposing alternatives (strategies, investments, assets, etc.).
b) El punto de partida es la necesidad de un decisor de seleccionar, entre un conjunto de alternativas posibles y en la mayoría de los casos contrapuestas (estrategias, inversiones, activos, etc.) la más interesante de ellas.
Below I have pasted what I have so far. Any improvements?
a) The starting point is the need for a decision maker when faced with a set of possible mostly-opposing alternatives (strategies, investments, assets, etc.).
Proposed translations
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| 4 +3 | just go back to the verb |
Casey Butterfield
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| 5 +2 | to select..... the most interesting of them all |
Elena Sgarbo (X)
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| 5 | the most interesting of them |
Irene Cudich
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| 4 +1 | my version of the sentence |
Sol
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| 5 -1 | the most appealing OR profitable |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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| 4 | the most relevant one |
Linda Tyrer (X)
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| 4 | ...the most interesting among them all... |
Gabriel Aramburo Siegert
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| 3 | to choose the best out of a series of different, and often incompatible, alternatives |
CMJ_Trans (X)
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Proposed translations
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Casey Butterfield
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Fulbright Scholar in Translation
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Catalan to English, German to English, and 1 more.
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Spanish term (edited):
la m�s interesante de ellas
Selected
just go back to the verb
It's "seleccionar....la más interesante de ellas"
The starting point is the decision-maker's need, when faced with a set of possible mostly-opposing alternatives (strategies, investments, assets, etc.), to choose the most interesting one.
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or: The starting point is the decision-maker\'s need to select the most interesting option from a set of possible alternatives which are usually opposed to one another (strategies, investments, assets, etc.).
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It looks to me as if you\'re on the right track, Edward. \"Viable\" may be a nice substitute for interesante. Also that \"mostly\" gets a little pesky; what do you think of this? :
The first step is the need by/for the decision-maker to select the most viable option from a set of often conflicting alternatives (strategies, investments, assets, etc.).
The starting point is the decision-maker's need, when faced with a set of possible mostly-opposing alternatives (strategies, investments, assets, etc.), to choose the most interesting one.
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or: The starting point is the decision-maker\'s need to select the most interesting option from a set of possible alternatives which are usually opposed to one another (strategies, investments, assets, etc.).
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It looks to me as if you\'re on the right track, Edward. \"Viable\" may be a nice substitute for interesante. Also that \"mostly\" gets a little pesky; what do you think of this? :
The first step is the need by/for the decision-maker to select the most viable option from a set of often conflicting alternatives (strategies, investments, assets, etc.).
Peer comment(s):
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Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
: they are not opposed ..the accompany them..they are literally "in the next column"
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I think you are out of line disagreeing with an aspect of my answer that went over and beyond the question. What you are disagreeing with wasn't even asked by the asker.
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Maisar
: but maybe "attractive" rather than "interesting"
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sure. was going for clearing up edward's doubts more than anything; not too attached to the translation of the actual sentence.
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Sol
: Yes, you answered the question :)
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grácias Sol!
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Javier Herrera (X)
: Sí, has dado en el clavo. Contrapuestas nunca significa en la columna siguiente, eso sería YUXTApuestas. De todas formas sería irse por las ramas, la pregunta es sobre el último sintagma.
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Grácias por el apoyo Javier, tienes toda la razón y además no sabes cuánto me gusta la palabra sintagma, syntagm en inglés :) tampoco sabía que yuxtapuesto existía en castellano, está muy bien saberlo!
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MartaM
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grácias, Marta!
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Irene Cudich
Native in Spanish
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Native in: Spanish (Variant: Latin American)
Works in: English to Spanish
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Spanish term (edited):
la m�s interesante de ellas
the most interesting of them
I think that´s it. Good luck!
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Spanish term (edited):
la m�s interesante de ellas
to select..... the most interesting of them all
Hi Edward
Here's another option:
:::::::: The departure point for the decision-maker is to select, among an array of possible options (which are often conflicting / incompatible) the most interesting of them all.
Good luck!
Elena
Here's another option:
:::::::: The departure point for the decision-maker is to select, among an array of possible options (which are often conflicting / incompatible) the most interesting of them all.
Good luck!
Elena
Peer comment(s):
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Javier Herrera (X)
: También estoy de acuerdo. Elegir tu opción o la de Casey es cuestión de gustos
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Muchas gracias, Javier, buen finde
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Lisa Russell
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Hola, Lisa, gracias
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Spanish term (edited):
la m�s interesante de ellas
the most appealing OR profitable
The starting point is the need for a decision maker to choose the most appealing alternative and, in most cases, the strategies, investment and assets they entail OR that go along with them.
that's how it fits in, IMO....
In English, if you say the MOST APPEALING it implies the Spanish notion of un conjunto...which is usually not spelled out in English.
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contrapuesto is not OPPOSED here. It means in the next column of things to do in a table, for example. They are strategies,investments and assets that GO ALONG with the choice made.
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Note added at 1 hr 33 mins (2004-07-09 13:30:29 GMT)
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Alternativa 1------[contrapuesta] estrategia, inversion y activos
Alternativa 2------[contrapuesta] estrategia, inversion y activos
Each choice ENTAILS strategies, investment and assets...they are contrapuesta to the alternative..they ACCOMPANY THEM or the alternative or choice ENTAILS THEM....
that's how it fits in, IMO....
In English, if you say the MOST APPEALING it implies the Spanish notion of un conjunto...which is usually not spelled out in English.
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Note added at 18 mins (2004-07-09 12:15:28 GMT)
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contrapuesto is not OPPOSED here. It means in the next column of things to do in a table, for example. They are strategies,investments and assets that GO ALONG with the choice made.
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Note added at 1 hr 33 mins (2004-07-09 13:30:29 GMT)
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Alternativa 1------[contrapuesta] estrategia, inversion y activos
Alternativa 2------[contrapuesta] estrategia, inversion y activos
Each choice ENTAILS strategies, investment and assets...they are contrapuesta to the alternative..they ACCOMPANY THEM or the alternative or choice ENTAILS THEM....
Peer comment(s):
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euler
14 mins
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Maisar
: The strategies, investments and assets form the range of alternatives, and the decision maker has to choose between them.
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no..they are alternative 1, 2, 3 etc. and they have strategies, investment and assets they go with them..or in proper business English...the choice entail strategies, investement and assets
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Sol
: It's ONE decision, not two, unless it's in horrible Spanish. I think you're trying to read too much into it. The alternatives are of the types stated: estrategias, etc. "Contrapuestas" means "to be compared".
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Javier Herrera (X)
: Agree with maisar. Contrapuestas is not a noun, it's an adjective qualifying alternativas. The three things between brackets are kinds of alternativas.
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Spanish term (edited):
la m�s interesante de ellas
the most relevant one
(to slect) the most relevant one
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even sElect, sorry
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even sElect, sorry
1 hr
to choose the best out of a series of different, and often incompatible, alternatives
simply
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Spanish term (edited):
la m�s interesante de ellas
my version of the sentence
The first step is for a decision maker to compare a group of alternatives of diverse types, which include estrategies, investments, goods, etc., and choose the best one.
Peer comment(s):
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Javier Herrera (X)
: Contrapuestas por diverse? No sé, yo lo entiendo más bien como aparentemente contradictorias o mutuamente excluyentes. Con el resto de la frase estoy de acuerdo, se trataba de entender una frase mal redactada en español.
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Es posible, Javier, pero una de las acepciones de "contraponer" es "Mostrar las diferencias entre dos ÷cosas, generalmente para que se vean las ventajas de una de ellas. Þ *Comparar."
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14 hrs
Gabriel Aramburo Siegert
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Ready Comprehensive 30 year experience
Native in: Spanish 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
Spanish term (edited):
la m�s interesante de ellas
...the most interesting among them all...
Plain and simple.
Discussion
Javier: Thank you for your comments. It is a really crummy text. How do I tell this to my client delicately?