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Nov 21, 2006 14:16
17 yrs ago
English term
milkfish
English to Turkish
Science
Zoology
food / gıda
It's called as bangus, philippines national anthem
Proposed translations
(Turkish)
4 +5 | süt balığı | Serkan Doğan |
4 +4 | süt balığı | Leyal |
5 +3 | süt balığı | Balaban Cerit |
Change log
Nov 21, 2006 14:30: Leyal changed "Field" from "Other" to "Science" , "Field (specific)" from "Cooking / Culinary" to "Zoology"
Proposed translations
+4
5 mins
süt balığı
Declined
süt balığı (chanos chanos)
tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonorynchiformes
suurunleri.cu.edu.tr/su/ylisansdersicerik.asp
fas.ege.edu.tr/pdf/36_Yigit_20_1-2_2003.pdf
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Note added at 7 Min. (2006-11-21 14:23:52 GMT)
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... Bir deniz balığı olan ve yosunlardan beslenen süt balığı (Chanos chanos) güneydoğu Asya'da önemli bir besin kaynağıdır. ...
tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonorynchiformes
... Tilapia, süt balığı, kocabaş sazan ve karabalık gibi ekonomik öneme sahip sıcak iklim balıklarının yetiştiriciliğinde uygulanan yeni teknikler ...
suurunleri.cu.edu.tr/su/ylisansdersicerik.asp
Borlongan ve diğ., (2003)’nin süt balığı. (Chanos chanos)’nda, Yigit ve diğer ...
jfas.ege.edu.tr/pdf/36_Yigit_20_1-2_2003.pdf
tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonorynchiformes
suurunleri.cu.edu.tr/su/ylisansdersicerik.asp
fas.ege.edu.tr/pdf/36_Yigit_20_1-2_2003.pdf
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Note added at 7 Min. (2006-11-21 14:23:52 GMT)
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... Bir deniz balığı olan ve yosunlardan beslenen süt balığı (Chanos chanos) güneydoğu Asya'da önemli bir besin kaynağıdır. ...
tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonorynchiformes
... Tilapia, süt balığı, kocabaş sazan ve karabalık gibi ekonomik öneme sahip sıcak iklim balıklarının yetiştiriciliğinde uygulanan yeni teknikler ...
suurunleri.cu.edu.tr/su/ylisansdersicerik.asp
Borlongan ve diğ., (2003)’nin süt balığı. (Chanos chanos)’nda, Yigit ve diğer ...
jfas.ege.edu.tr/pdf/36_Yigit_20_1-2_2003.pdf
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Ebru Güler
6 mins
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teşekkür ederim
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agree |
Taner Göde
14 mins
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teşekkürler
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agree |
Balaban Cerit
24 mins
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teşekkür ederim ¦-)
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agree |
Mehmet Hascan
2 hrs
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teşekkür ederim
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+5
5 mins
süt balığı
Declined
Chanos chanos
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Note added at 8 mins (2006-11-21 14:24:51 GMT)
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internette az sayıda kaynak var, genelde latincesi ile anılmış
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Note added at 8 mins (2006-11-21 14:24:51 GMT)
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internette az sayıda kaynak var, genelde latincesi ile anılmış
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Leyal
5 mins
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teşekkür ederim
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agree |
Ebru Kopf
13 mins
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çok teşekkür ederim
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agree |
Taner Göde
14 mins
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teşekkürler
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agree |
Balaban Cerit
24 mins
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teşekkürler
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agree |
Mehmet Hascan
2 hrs
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teşekkürler
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+3
6 mins
süt balığı
Declined
Wikipedia notes that this fish (Chanos chanos) is known in Turkish as: süt balığı
http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonorynchiformes
It is used in some other academic papers, one instance is:
http://jfas.ege.edu.tr/pdf/36_Yigit_20_1-2_2003.pdf
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Note added at 5 days (2006-11-27 10:44:58 GMT)
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There seems to be a problem with part of the additional information you have given.
When we look at this comprehensive source:
Türkiye Tür Listeleri - Kemikli Balıklar:
http://www.biltek.tubitak.gov.tr/bilgipaket/canlilar/TR_tur_...
we can see that "trisopterus minutus capelanus" is the fish known as "tavuk balığı". It is known as "poor cod" or as "cod" in English.
After an initial research, it seems that neither the fish known as "bangus" nor "milkfish" is related to "cod" or "trisopterus minutus capelanus".
Furthermore, in the source mentioned above, it can be seen that fishes belonging to the Serranidae (Hani Balıkları) family in Turkey are not called "tavuk balığı". This fact can be corroborated by researching other sources.
The Serranidae (Hani Balıkları) fish family in Turkey according to Biltek:
Anthias anthias (Linnaeus, 1758) (Berber Balığı)
Callanthias ruber (Rafinesque, 1810) (Berber Balığı)
Epinephelus aeneus (E.Geoffroy Saint-Hilarie, 1817) (Lahos)
Epinephelus alexandrinus (Valenciennes, 1828) (Lahos )
Epinephelus caninus (Valenciennes, 1843) (Orfoz)
Epinephelus guaza (Linnaeus, 1758) (Orfoz)
Ephinephelus haifensis Ben-Tuvia, 1953 (Orfoz, Börtlek, Arap)
Mycteroperca rubra (Bloch, 1793) (Taş Hanisi)
Polyprion americanus (Schneider,1801) (İskorpit Hanisi)
Serranus cabrilla (Linnaeus, 1758) (Asıl Hani)
Serranus hepatus (Linnaeus, 1758) (Benekli Hani)
Serranus scriba (Linnaeus, 1758) (Çizgili Hani)
As a final note, "tavuk balığı" is sometimes called as "mezgit", this can also be seen in the source mentioned above.
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Other fish families in Turkey, for general reference:
Tatlısu Balıkları:
http://www.biltek.tubitak.gov.tr/bilgipaket/canlilar/TR_tur_...
Kıkırdaklı Balıklar:
http://www.biltek.tubitak.gov.tr/bilgipaket/canlilar/TR_tur_...
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Note added at 5 days (2006-11-27 12:24:59 GMT)
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Dear ASSION, I have to add a final note here to clear up a possible misunderstanding: I haven't reached the conclusion that this fish is a HANI. As I noted above, according to my on-line research it isn't a HANI. But since you have conducted a more extensive research on this subject and you are satisfied with the result, there is no problem.
http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonorynchiformes
It is used in some other academic papers, one instance is:
http://jfas.ege.edu.tr/pdf/36_Yigit_20_1-2_2003.pdf
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Note added at 5 days (2006-11-27 10:44:58 GMT)
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There seems to be a problem with part of the additional information you have given.
When we look at this comprehensive source:
Türkiye Tür Listeleri - Kemikli Balıklar:
http://www.biltek.tubitak.gov.tr/bilgipaket/canlilar/TR_tur_...
we can see that "trisopterus minutus capelanus" is the fish known as "tavuk balığı". It is known as "poor cod" or as "cod" in English.
After an initial research, it seems that neither the fish known as "bangus" nor "milkfish" is related to "cod" or "trisopterus minutus capelanus".
Furthermore, in the source mentioned above, it can be seen that fishes belonging to the Serranidae (Hani Balıkları) family in Turkey are not called "tavuk balığı". This fact can be corroborated by researching other sources.
The Serranidae (Hani Balıkları) fish family in Turkey according to Biltek:
Anthias anthias (Linnaeus, 1758) (Berber Balığı)
Callanthias ruber (Rafinesque, 1810) (Berber Balığı)
Epinephelus aeneus (E.Geoffroy Saint-Hilarie, 1817) (Lahos)
Epinephelus alexandrinus (Valenciennes, 1828) (Lahos )
Epinephelus caninus (Valenciennes, 1843) (Orfoz)
Epinephelus guaza (Linnaeus, 1758) (Orfoz)
Ephinephelus haifensis Ben-Tuvia, 1953 (Orfoz, Börtlek, Arap)
Mycteroperca rubra (Bloch, 1793) (Taş Hanisi)
Polyprion americanus (Schneider,1801) (İskorpit Hanisi)
Serranus cabrilla (Linnaeus, 1758) (Asıl Hani)
Serranus hepatus (Linnaeus, 1758) (Benekli Hani)
Serranus scriba (Linnaeus, 1758) (Çizgili Hani)
As a final note, "tavuk balığı" is sometimes called as "mezgit", this can also be seen in the source mentioned above.
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Other fish families in Turkey, for general reference:
Tatlısu Balıkları:
http://www.biltek.tubitak.gov.tr/bilgipaket/canlilar/TR_tur_...
Kıkırdaklı Balıklar:
http://www.biltek.tubitak.gov.tr/bilgipaket/canlilar/TR_tur_...
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Note added at 5 days (2006-11-27 12:24:59 GMT)
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Dear ASSION, I have to add a final note here to clear up a possible misunderstanding: I haven't reached the conclusion that this fish is a HANI. As I noted above, according to my on-line research it isn't a HANI. But since you have conducted a more extensive research on this subject and you are satisfied with the result, there is no problem.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Leyal
3 mins
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teşekkür ederim.
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agree |
Taner Göde
12 mins
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teşekkür ederim.
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agree |
Mehmet Hascan
2 hrs
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teşekkür ederim.
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Discussion
As I looked the sources you have given especially at academic papers they mostly use one to one translation. Some ofthe seamen told that this is known as tavuk balığı bcs of the the colour of the meat. I think thats why they are calling as milkfish, the meat is as white as milk. Anyway I am glad that we reached the same conclusion that it's a HANI
I found the answer at Alan Davidson's Mediterranian Seafood. The additional info comes from the seamen.