Nov 10, 2000 06:16
24 yrs ago
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French term

surindexation

French to English Bus/Financial
This is in a document about employee savings plans and stock options.
"Une formule de surinedxation permet au sein d'un FCPE qu'un salarié achète une action à 100 % du prix de référence non décoté.'
Mary

Proposed translations

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Super-index/super-indexation


A super-indexation/super-index formula permits......an employee to buy a share at 100% of the reference price

YES, I found a reference (see below)and note change to sentence above. It's logical - the index is in relation to inflation, and to be over-indexed for inflation is not an appropriate notion for savings, whereas it is for costs such as wages, etc.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you very much indeed - I had in fact used "overindexation", but was not happy with it, since, as you point out, "over" implies "excessive" and that was not what was meant. Mary"
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OVERINDEXATION

IT IS MY CHOICE.
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Yolanda Broad
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Overindexation

indeed,

but I wanted a confirmation and found it at:

www.nd.edu/~kellogg/WP191_200.html

'...the rational basis of 'overindexation' of wages...' in an abstract on 'The Rational Basis of Wage Determination in Regimes of High Inflation'.

HTH
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Yolanda Broad
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Over-indexation

Just an explanation of the term indicated in the previous two answers:

English:Economic Conditions and Forecasting
over-indexation s
EX - If the CPI [consumer-price index] overstates inflation, the budget deficit swells because of the over-indexation of welfare benefits, government pensions and income-tax brackets. s
1997-09-17
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Termium

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1 hr

Over-indexation

And a bit of an addition to my prior answer:

Over indexation gets 57 hits on Google
Overindexation gets 6 hits

So this is not an overly-used term, in any case!
Reference:

Google searches

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superindexed ???

I can't load Google to check my guesswork just yet, but i'll get back to you.

My hunch is that 'superindexed' is better than 'overindexed'. Because 'over' indicates 'excessive', and your context doesn't imply 'excessive'. Moreover, all the references refer to 'overindexed wages' and 'CPI' which seems to be another angle altogether. They are over-indexed, and the implication is a 'problem'. In your context, no problem, rather a facility, a plus of some kind, is implied.

A superindexation/superindex formula permits......an employee to buy a share at 100% of the reference price
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3 days 10 hrs

grossing-up formula

Si il y a un prix net (le prix de référence) et un prix brut, la formule de surindexation convertit de l'un à l'autre.
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6 days

Over-indexation vs super-indexation. How about "balanced funds"?

I know you don't like "over-indexation" and all its variants, but "Super-indexed" doesn't appear to be the answer, either. As translators, we need to be careful about general acceptance of the terms we use.

If you will read on down, perhaps you will understand where I am coming from, and may even find that the "balanced funds" solution I proposed, above, is what you were looking for. Hope the info helps!

Best regards and happy translating,

Yolanda Broad
ProZ Moderator, French to English
[email protected]

Google search results. Note that first one is British (which may very well be what you need...):
Searched English and French and Spanish pages for "super-indexation". Results 1 - 1 of 1. Search took 0.44 seconds.
House of Commons - Treasury - Minutes of Evidence
... that the Bank had effectively steered a midway course between assuming no super-indexation
and full super-indexation. The second, and I think more important ...
www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm199900/cmse...

Searched English and French and Spanish pages for "super-index". Results 1 - 10 of about 1,660 Nothing on the first several pages has anything to do with the context you are translating.

Searched English and French and Spanish pages for +"super-index"+formula. Results 1 - 10 of about 24 Context for most results was "numbers theory" Remainder were for a music catalog; MSI documentation; 2 chat groups; and one "Super Index Fund".

On the other hand, "over-indexation"is used in texts classificating revenues in various contexts (taxation, budgeting, savings, etc.). See:
http://www.google.com/search?q="over-indexation"&hl=en&lr=la...

"superindexed" gets two hits on Google, neither of which has anything to do with classifying revenues:

Douglas C. Engelbart: "Possibilities for Teaching Machine at .
... 923, Coordinate Index and Abstracts of Training Device Literature....a big, thick, superindexed volume which our Document Center has (in my office now). Put ...
www.histech.rwth-aachen.de/www/quellen/engelbart/B15_F4_Tea... - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

"University Presses, Computer Technology, and Human Rights ,"
... CDROMS, for example, cost about two dollars to physically produce, and can hold superindexed texts to the tune of 400 to 500 megabytes--roughly 400 book-length ...
www.nap.edu/staff/mjensen/hr-talk.htm

I do get two relevant hits for "super-indexed" (out of a total of nine hits for the term). Note that the first one is British. The second one puts quotation marks around the term, and uses it as a paraphrase for "balanced funds" --which may very well be what you're looking for!

TSG 98 /16
... at a level of £50 per week. The allowance is now £100 per week and, in effect, has been super indexed over the years. If the allowance had been indexed to ... www.irlgov.ie/finance/tsg/tsg9816.htm

Index Fund Investing
... term portfolio. The advantages of balanced funds or "super-indexed" portfolios are: Fixed fund percentages - They force one to buy into declining sectors. The ...
www.indexfund.com/basics.html - 90k
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