Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
PC et prises RJ 45
English translation:
power sockets and RJ45 sockets
Added to glossary by
canaria
May 6, 2005 12:50
19 yrs ago
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French term
PC et prises RJ 45
French to English
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Construction / Civil Engineering
still in the list of building specs, Equipement electrique (PC et prises RJ 45)
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +2 | power sockets and RJ45 sockets | Tony M |
4 +1 | electricity and RJ45 sockets | Christopher RH |
4 +1 | RJ 45 connectors | Natalie Chandler |
5 | power points/sockets | Graham macLachlan |
4 | putlets and RJ45 outlets | Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) |
Proposed translations
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31 mins
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power sockets and RJ45 sockets
For BE at least, I would favour the use of 'power'; 'outlet' is probably more AE, I think.
'power outlets' is OK, but technically, I like it less myself.
If you don't like using the word sockets twice, you could say 'power sockets and RJ45 outlets', that would be technically OK too.
In layman's terms, we'd say 'mains sockets' for PC here, but I wouldn't use that if your context is a more technical one, unless intended for a lay readership.
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\'socket outlet\' is also often found for power sockets, but personally I deprecate this, as it is both an unnecessary duplication, and alos less explicit, since it omits the reference to \'power\' that is implicit in \'prise de courant\' (don\'t forget, the literal translation of that would be \'power outlet\')
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Nathalie\'s \'connector\' throws up an interesting point, which has cropped up before. When do you call it a plug, a socket, or a connector? Generally speaking, one tends to think of a plug as being male (has pins) and a socket as being female (has receptacles); but also, we tend to think of a plug as being the part that is mounted on the cable, and the socket the (possibly fixed) thing it plugs into.
Connector is a nicely non-specific word that can be used to cover all possibilities; but we tend to use it more in terms of describing either the style or type of connector, or the fact that there is a means of plugging something in and out (i.e. it is not hard-wired).
So to my technician\'s ears, talking about fitting RJ45 (etc.) connectors to an office space, for example, doesn\'t ring true. One might well say that \"all computers will be fitted with RJ45 connectors\", and equally, that \"mating wall-mounted connectors must be supplied\".
But if we are just talking about the provision of connection points for power and computer networks, my favourite would be \'power sockets and RJ45 sockets\' --- or I guess you could get away with saying just \'power and RJ45 sockets\'
\'outlet\', \'power point\' and \'electricity socket\' are all rather more layman\'s terms, which would be totally appropriate in an estate agent\'s description of a kitchen in a house for sale: \"4 double sockets plus a telephone point and a TV aerial outlet\", but sound uncomfortably homespun on a more formal, technical context --- and as Chris says, the use of \'plug\' is VERY colloquial indeed: \"Oh, you can never seem to find a spare plug when you need one!\" and would certainly not be appropriate here.
'power outlets' is OK, but technically, I like it less myself.
If you don't like using the word sockets twice, you could say 'power sockets and RJ45 outlets', that would be technically OK too.
In layman's terms, we'd say 'mains sockets' for PC here, but I wouldn't use that if your context is a more technical one, unless intended for a lay readership.
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Note added at 33 mins (2005-05-06 13:23:05 GMT)
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\'socket outlet\' is also often found for power sockets, but personally I deprecate this, as it is both an unnecessary duplication, and alos less explicit, since it omits the reference to \'power\' that is implicit in \'prise de courant\' (don\'t forget, the literal translation of that would be \'power outlet\')
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Note added at 52 mins (2005-05-06 13:42:52 GMT)
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Nathalie\'s \'connector\' throws up an interesting point, which has cropped up before. When do you call it a plug, a socket, or a connector? Generally speaking, one tends to think of a plug as being male (has pins) and a socket as being female (has receptacles); but also, we tend to think of a plug as being the part that is mounted on the cable, and the socket the (possibly fixed) thing it plugs into.
Connector is a nicely non-specific word that can be used to cover all possibilities; but we tend to use it more in terms of describing either the style or type of connector, or the fact that there is a means of plugging something in and out (i.e. it is not hard-wired).
So to my technician\'s ears, talking about fitting RJ45 (etc.) connectors to an office space, for example, doesn\'t ring true. One might well say that \"all computers will be fitted with RJ45 connectors\", and equally, that \"mating wall-mounted connectors must be supplied\".
But if we are just talking about the provision of connection points for power and computer networks, my favourite would be \'power sockets and RJ45 sockets\' --- or I guess you could get away with saying just \'power and RJ45 sockets\'
\'outlet\', \'power point\' and \'electricity socket\' are all rather more layman\'s terms, which would be totally appropriate in an estate agent\'s description of a kitchen in a house for sale: \"4 double sockets plus a telephone point and a TV aerial outlet\", but sound uncomfortably homespun on a more formal, technical context --- and as Chris says, the use of \'plug\' is VERY colloquial indeed: \"Oh, you can never seem to find a spare plug when you need one!\" and would certainly not be appropriate here.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Christopher RH
: ah - beat me to it. I'll leave my answer up for the extra terms.
3 mins
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Thanks, Chris!
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agree |
GILLES MEUNIER
10 mins
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Merci, Gilles !
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks again"
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33 mins
electricity and RJ45 sockets
A UK English variant
PC: prise de courant: commonly just plain "sockets", or electricity sockets, power sockets, "plugs" (wrong in theory but used in fact) etc.
RJ45: RJ45, ethernet, etc.
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Note added at 39 mins (2005-05-06 13:29:55 GMT)
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btw, estate agents in Britain generally leave out the \"power\" altogether, since UK sockets in houses are typically described as \"single\" or \"double\" sockets.
France, being less electricity-safe than the UK, tends to rely more on the variety of adapters...
PC: prise de courant: commonly just plain "sockets", or electricity sockets, power sockets, "plugs" (wrong in theory but used in fact) etc.
RJ45: RJ45, ethernet, etc.
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Note added at 39 mins (2005-05-06 13:29:55 GMT)
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btw, estate agents in Britain generally leave out the \"power\" altogether, since UK sockets in houses are typically described as \"single\" or \"double\" sockets.
France, being less electricity-safe than the UK, tends to rely more on the variety of adapters...
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Tony M
: Yes, though do note some of these terms are more suitable for a layman's register, and would be out of place in a technical building spec.
9 mins
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make that a neutral then - tbh I prefer "power" to "electricity" too
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38 mins
RJ 45 connectors
RJ 45 connectors for networks
From linked website: Short for Registered Jack-45, an eight-wire connector used commonly to connect computers onto a local-area networks (LAN), especially Ethernets. RJ-45 connectors look similar to the ubiquitous RJ-11 connectors used for connecting telephone equipment, but they are somewhat wider.
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and power sockets of course for PC (prises de courant)
From linked website: Short for Registered Jack-45, an eight-wire connector used commonly to connect computers onto a local-area networks (LAN), especially Ethernets. RJ-45 connectors look similar to the ubiquitous RJ-11 connectors used for connecting telephone equipment, but they are somewhat wider.
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Note added at 40 mins (2005-05-06 13:30:09 GMT)
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and power sockets of course for PC (prises de courant)
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Christopher RH
: As far as I know, the "connector" is the plug, not the socket.
1 min
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neutral |
Tony M
: Although 'connector' CAN mean both plug and socket, I have to say that this would not be my preferred way of expressing it in the given context.
5 mins
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agree |
Céline Odo
41 mins
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35 mins
power points/sockets
Yes 'prises de courant' for both, I understand 'outlet' to be on a machine and 'power point/socket' to be on a wall, they are of course more or less synonymous.
OED definitions:
power point = a socket in a wall etc. by which an electrical appliance or device can be connected to the electricity supply
outlet = a power point; an output socket in an electrical device.
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Note added at 54 mins (2005-05-06 13:45:00 GMT)
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It\'s pretty close:
\"power points\" + RJ45 = 401 googles
\"power sockets\" + RJ45 = 695 googles
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Note added at 56 mins (2005-05-06 13:46:46 GMT)
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But the winner in pure, cross-border googling terms is:
\"power outlets\" + RJ45 = 832 googles
OED definitions:
power point = a socket in a wall etc. by which an electrical appliance or device can be connected to the electricity supply
outlet = a power point; an output socket in an electrical device.
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Note added at 54 mins (2005-05-06 13:45:00 GMT)
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It\'s pretty close:
\"power points\" + RJ45 = 401 googles
\"power sockets\" + RJ45 = 695 googles
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Note added at 56 mins (2005-05-06 13:46:46 GMT)
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But the winner in pure, cross-border googling terms is:
\"power outlets\" + RJ45 = 832 googles
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Tony M
: I think the machine / wall distinction is spurious here, but on the other hand 'power point' is rather a layman's term, not probably ideal for what I assume is a formal, technical register.
6 mins
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2 mins
putlets and RJ45 outlets
prise de courants ..
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Note added at 3 mins (2005-05-06 12:53:16 GMT)
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that\'s outlets...sorry
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Note added at 6 mins (2005-05-06 12:56:10 GMT)
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correction:
final: Outlets and RJ45 plugs
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Note added at 7 mins (2005-05-06 12:57:13 GMT)
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final is wrong
they are both outlets.,.,outlets and RJ45 outlets
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Note added at 8 mins (2005-05-06 12:58:41 GMT)
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the RJ45 outlets do take a plug of a similar name!..:)
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Note added at 3 hrs 14 mins (2005-05-06 16:04:09 GMT)
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it means regular outlets and outlets that can accommodate RH45 plugs...no need to write a book, IMO
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Note added at 3 hrs 17 mins (2005-05-06 16:08:00 GMT)
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Note added at 3 mins (2005-05-06 12:53:16 GMT)
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that\'s outlets...sorry
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Note added at 6 mins (2005-05-06 12:56:10 GMT)
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correction:
final: Outlets and RJ45 plugs
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Note added at 7 mins (2005-05-06 12:57:13 GMT)
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final is wrong
they are both outlets.,.,outlets and RJ45 outlets
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Note added at 8 mins (2005-05-06 12:58:41 GMT)
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the RJ45 outlets do take a plug of a similar name!..:)
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Note added at 3 hrs 14 mins (2005-05-06 16:04:09 GMT)
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it means regular outlets and outlets that can accommodate RH45 plugs...no need to write a book, IMO
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Note added at 3 hrs 17 mins (2005-05-06 16:08:00 GMT)
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... *****Specifications. Electrical Specifications. TIA/EIA Category: ... UNJ300 Category 3 outlets**** meet applicable electrical and safety standards and are ...
www.uniprisesolutions.com/ docs/Uniprise_Cat5eOutlets.pdf - Similar pages
iConcepts 9 76652 IC76652 - FotoConnection...*** iConcepts 9 Outlets ***2100 Joules RJ45 Modem Jacks Specifications: ... from damaging power spikes and interference found in all electrical power sources. ...
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[PDF] Quattro ComputerFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... ***2 electrical outlets and 2 RJ-45 data jacks****. PWR20-LL ... SUGGESTED SPECIFICATIONS. Quattro Computer Tables are height adjustable from 24\" to ...
www.remc.org/files/items/219.17.pdf - Similar pages
FInal: (power or electrical) outlets and RJ35 data Jacks
if you want to be picky
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