Jan 17, 2015 17:45
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French term

officier instrumentaire

French to English Law/Patents Law (general)
Legal document. Writ to appear before Prosecutor General.
Officier Instrumentaire is one in a list of references indicating date, origin, nature,addressee of writ.
Proposed translations (English)
5 Presiding Officer
4 -1 hearing officer
3 -1 Process server

Discussion

AllegroTrans Jan 18, 2015:
Asker It might help if :
1) You would tell us which country this is from (there are many systems, many jurisdictions)
2) You could give at least one complete sentence containing the term and tell us exactly what the document is
3) You could tell us whether this is from a civil, criminal or administrative court
Daryo Jan 17, 2015:
literally : the court officer in charge of preparing/writing/composing a legal instrument.

Basically the one confirming by his signature "I wrote this".

Proposed translations

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hearing officer

The duties of an "officier instrumentaire" are discussed in detail at http://www.icty.org/x/file/Legal Library/Practice_Directions...

These seem to correspond to the duties of a "hearing officer". See http://www.hearing-officers.com/.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Daryo : their jobs are quite different
4 hrs
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-1
2 hrs

Process server

May not be a huissier instrumentaire. namely a court bailiff.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Daryo : the references are the right one, but not the answer as it's a different question: "huissier ...- a "process server" has no say whatsoever in the content of the documents entrusted to him, his job is only to "serve" them on the intended recipient.
2 hrs
You have fouled up on the meaning of instrumentaire.
neutral AllegroTrans : I would like to see more than this previous KudoZ to convince me that this is definitively a process server or bailiff
22 hrs
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1 hr

Presiding Officer

In this case it would be an Officer Presiding, for example, at a court or Court martial

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Note added at 1 day3 hrs (2015-01-18 21:31:27 GMT)
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Re: comments, sorry i should probably have put a 4 confidence level on this rather than 5. I agree that there is not enough context. I still think my answer is correct in relation to administrative and military also to other types of tribunal or court but it would depend on jurisdictiom and. Context. I will be more careful next time. K
Peer comment(s):

neutral writeaway : any refs to back this ? normally 100% confidence should be backed by at least one valid ref
54 mins
disagree Daryo : the big boss having to write all the summons? The post would stay vacant for a loooong time...
2 hrs
agree RoyHa (X)
5 hrs
neutral AllegroTrans : Well courts have Presiding Judges, and the official in charge is usually the Clerk of the Court. Although we have insufficient context, you still need to back up your answer.
1 day 32 mins
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Reference comments

5 hrs
Reference:

officier instrumentaire

INSTRUMENTAIRE, adj.

DROIT
A. − [En parlant d'un officier ministériel] Qui rédige des instruments, des actes publics. Le choix du défenseur dépend presque toujours de l'agent instrumentaire. Entre le client et l'avocat, les relations d'autrefois ont disparu; tout se fait par l'intermédiaire de l'avoué ou du notaire (Reybaud, J. Paturot,1842, p. 108).
♦ Emploi subst. Pierre et Placide, qui ne connaissaient que quelques crapules joviales des cabinets d'affaires de la Côte d'Azur faisant des moulinets avec des mots, restaient muets devant cet instrumentaire secret [le notaire] et qui sentait le complot (Morand, Homme pressé,1941, p. 38).

Qui rédige des instruments

as explained in details in

http://www.icty.org/x/file/Legal Library/Practice_Directions...

all this "officier instrumentaire" is doing is "rédiger l'instrument" nothing more and nothing else
Peer comments on this reference comment:

disagree Adrian MM. (X) : there are various scenarios, inc. protests of negotiable instruments (effets de commerce) where this officer does no drafting http://en.bab.la/dictionary/french-english/instrumentaire
32 mins
agree AllegroTrans : good refs. but various scenarios - we need more context from Asker however
20 hrs
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