Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
audits en double
English translation:
shadow audits
Added to glossary by
claude-andrew
Sep 6, 2011 20:50
13 yrs ago
French term
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audits en double
French to English
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Management
Eco-audit of a company to gain a seal of approval
Description of the training of auditor technicians:
Nos techniciens sont sélectionnés en interne sur la base d’un des deux pré-requis suivants :
Connaissance du process : réglage machine, réglages des paramètres qualitatifs et énergétiques,…
Connaissance diagnostic afin d’établir un état machine.
Nos techniciens sélectionnés suivent un parcours de formation complet constitué par la réalisation d’**audits en double**.
Is this "double audits" (the term exists) ? Or something else?
Nos techniciens sont sélectionnés en interne sur la base d’un des deux pré-requis suivants :
Connaissance du process : réglage machine, réglages des paramètres qualitatifs et énergétiques,…
Connaissance diagnostic afin d’établir un état machine.
Nos techniciens sélectionnés suivent un parcours de formation complet constitué par la réalisation d’**audits en double**.
Is this "double audits" (the term exists) ? Or something else?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | shadow audits |
Sheila Wilson
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| 3 | combined internal/external audit |
philgoddard
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Proposed translations
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Sheila Wilson
Spain
Spain
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Spain
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shadow audits
I believe this refers more to the training than to auditing specifically. Two people perform the same audit, trainer and trainee, and the results are compared. Also happens when the competency of the auditor is challenged.
http://www.purpose-driven-solutions.com/html/body_shadow_aud...
http://www.purpose-driven-solutions.com/html/body_shadow_aud...
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: I think my answer was on the right lines, but yours is spot on.
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Thanks Phil. It's more education terminology than accounting/auditing really
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rkillings
: It's auditor training terminology. Not all auditing is financial!
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Thanks. Absolutely - QM calls for just about everything to be audited
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Comment: "Thanks Sheila. I'd never have found it!"
1 hr
philgoddard
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Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 4 more.
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24
combined internal/external audit
I found only one apparently relevant hit, which comes from the butchery industry and relates to bovine health audits by a certification body called SGS ICS.
The table on p. 31 of the PDF is a list of problems which may be identified during audits, one of which is "Inadéquation entre contrôles internes et externes". The solution in the right-hand column is "audit en double avec les techniciens". I think this implies that the audit is carried out jointly by internal and external staff.
The table on p. 31 of the PDF is a list of problems which may be identified during audits, one of which is "Inadéquation entre contrôles internes et externes". The solution in the right-hand column is "audit en double avec les techniciens". I think this implies that the audit is carried out jointly by internal and external staff.
Note from asker:
| Thanks Phil, this looks a strong possibility since these are training audits, so could well be done in duo by a trainee alongside a qualified auditor. |
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