Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
chute de v�hicule
English translation:
falling vehicle detectors
Added to glossary by
Huw Watkins
Feb 10, 2006 00:24
18 yrs ago
French term
United Kingdom
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Native in: English (Variants: US, British, UK) 
Works in: Italian to English, French to English, Portuguese to English, and 1 more.
chute de véhicule
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Mechanics / Mech Engineering
Railway signals
Les informations fournies par les détecteurs de chute de véhicule sur la voie, les détecteurs de vent, les DBC ainsi que les détecteurs propres à la sécurité du tunnel (détecteurs de fumées, d'incendie -ponctuels et / ou linéaires -détecteurs de présence, etc
Proposed translations
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| 5 +2 | post-grading |
CMJ_Trans (X)
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| 4 -1 | train derailment, train jumping (off) the tracks, running off the tracks |
Bourth (X)
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| 3 | Falling Objects Detectors (DCO) |
pooja_chic
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Proposed translations
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This one I am sure of - I have actually seen these things, done TGV presentations with visiting delegations, etc.
Since on high speed lines there are no level crossings, there are lots of bridges and viaducts and lots of cuttings. Road bridges often cross the railway lines. SNCF realised that one potential problem was road accidents with vehicles plunging off the bridge on to the railway line. Think of that dreaful accident in the UK not so long ago when a driver wet to sleep and ended up causing a railway accident by driving off the bridge on to the track.
So they designed a system that originally consisted of a sort of metal meshing that is electrically connected and linked to a detector (it may have evolved since). If a vehicle or other heavy weight falls on this mesh it breaks an electrical contact and sets off an alarm, which will transmit an instruction to the onboard signalling system to halt all oncoming trains.
We usually called them "falling vehicle detectors" since there was no "official" UK word.
FYI: the wind detectors are because of potential problems of side wides that can cause excessive uplift in the problems with power supply; the DBC are déctecteurs de boîtes chaudes (hot box detectors) for the axle-boxes to ensure the axles/bogies do not overheat
HTH
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Note added at 2006-02-10 08:44:52 (GMT) Post-grading
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excessive upfilt and problems - sorry - I am still half asleep
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Note added at 2006-02-10 09:02:31 (GMT) Post-grading
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the points issue is irrelevant - I offer you this because you were barking up the wrong tree.
PS - you should wait before grading to see what else may turn up - I suspect you had already made up your mind and took the first answer that confirmed your thinking - a salutory lesson perhaps to remember always to keep an open mind??????
Not wishing to preach but - been there, done that!
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Note added at 2006-02-11 21:45:15 (GMT) Post-grading
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I see that I wrote \"wides\" when I meant to write \"winds\" - brain working faster than fingers again
Since on high speed lines there are no level crossings, there are lots of bridges and viaducts and lots of cuttings. Road bridges often cross the railway lines. SNCF realised that one potential problem was road accidents with vehicles plunging off the bridge on to the railway line. Think of that dreaful accident in the UK not so long ago when a driver wet to sleep and ended up causing a railway accident by driving off the bridge on to the track.
So they designed a system that originally consisted of a sort of metal meshing that is electrically connected and linked to a detector (it may have evolved since). If a vehicle or other heavy weight falls on this mesh it breaks an electrical contact and sets off an alarm, which will transmit an instruction to the onboard signalling system to halt all oncoming trains.
We usually called them "falling vehicle detectors" since there was no "official" UK word.
FYI: the wind detectors are because of potential problems of side wides that can cause excessive uplift in the problems with power supply; the DBC are déctecteurs de boîtes chaudes (hot box detectors) for the axle-boxes to ensure the axles/bogies do not overheat
HTH
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Note added at 2006-02-10 08:44:52 (GMT) Post-grading
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excessive upfilt and problems - sorry - I am still half asleep
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Note added at 2006-02-10 09:02:31 (GMT) Post-grading
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the points issue is irrelevant - I offer you this because you were barking up the wrong tree.
PS - you should wait before grading to see what else may turn up - I suspect you had already made up your mind and took the first answer that confirmed your thinking - a salutory lesson perhaps to remember always to keep an open mind??????
Not wishing to preach but - been there, done that!
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Note added at 2006-02-11 21:45:15 (GMT) Post-grading
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I see that I wrote \"wides\" when I meant to write \"winds\" - brain working faster than fingers again
Peer comment(s):
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df49f (X)
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and I thoroughly agree on the "fair play" thing even though the points are academic
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Bourth (X)
: I am pleased to stand corrected! Lessons learnt (technical, and of one's fallibility, etc.!)
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I don't like putting disagrees but I owed it to "asker"
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Comment: "Thanks."
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French term (edited):
chute de v�hicule
train derailment, train jumping (off) the tracks, running off the tracks
I think we can assume that if a train derails it falls (off the tracks) onto the bed, ballast, etc.
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The derailment detector recognizes when an axle has become derailed by registering and evaluating the impact of the wheels on the sleepers. The driver then receives a warning signal or the emergency brake is automatically applied, reducing consequential damage caused by the derailment
http://www.knorr-bremse.com/frameset_templates/schiene/frm_p...
Maybe "wagon", "car" or, as here, "axle" instead of "train", which would be autrement plus catastrophique.
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Mind you, "derailment detector" sums it all up.
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Note added at 12 hrs (2006-02-10 13:17:32 GMT) Post-grading
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Forget that. I think the business about road vehicles falling onto the tracks is right (I assume the reference to tunnels is unrelated, directly).
To be honest, "véhicule" did bother me, but I assumed it was used to cover different types of "rail vehicle", and I envisaged this system in a tunnel as well ...
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Note added at 28 mins (2006-02-10 00:52:32 GMT)
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The derailment detector recognizes when an axle has become derailed by registering and evaluating the impact of the wheels on the sleepers. The driver then receives a warning signal or the emergency brake is automatically applied, reducing consequential damage caused by the derailment
http://www.knorr-bremse.com/frameset_templates/schiene/frm_p...
Maybe "wagon", "car" or, as here, "axle" instead of "train", which would be autrement plus catastrophique.
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Mind you, "derailment detector" sums it all up.
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Note added at 12 hrs (2006-02-10 13:17:32 GMT) Post-grading
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Forget that. I think the business about road vehicles falling onto the tracks is right (I assume the reference to tunnels is unrelated, directly).
To be honest, "véhicule" did bother me, but I assumed it was used to cover different types of "rail vehicle", and I envisaged this system in a tunnel as well ...
Peer comment(s):
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Gina W
17 mins
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CMJ_Trans (X)
: sorry - this has nothing to do with the train derailing - unless because it hits a vehicle that has fallen on the track
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Don't be sorry! You're undoubtedly right.
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df49f (X)
: with CMJ and David /// et bravo pour votre fair-play (ça nous arrive à tous/toutes de nous planter, no big deal!) - bonne soirée :) // ;-) :)
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I've never claimed to be infallible (even if secretly I like to think I am ;-) ) But do you HAVE TO rub it in? ;-)
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pooja_chic
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French term (edited):
détecteurs de chute de véhicule
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