Aug 4, 2010 15:57
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French term

Les pôles générateurs de trafic

French to English Social Sciences Transport / Transportation / Shipping transport planning
I realise that this refers to the places and infrastructures which generate a lot of traffic (of all kinds) but, although it appears in plenty of French documents, I don't seem to be able to find a standard translation in English. Any knowledge or reasonable invention greatly appreciated :)

Discussion

Joanne Nebbia (asker) Aug 4, 2010:
Tu quoque, brute, fili mi!
polyglot45 Aug 4, 2010:
traffic does NOT only correspond to Internet Internet borrowed it from the transport sector so please render unto Caeser that which is Caeser's !
Joanne Nebbia (asker) Aug 4, 2010:
Thanks Nick, so have I so I can see your point - but in view of the number of hits for the French version I was hoping that it had an equivalent English term. I suspect that I may need to use something like "traffic hot spots" or "high concentraction of traffic" in order to really convey what they mean. I will wait and see if someone else has already come across the same phrase. :)
NKW (X) Aug 4, 2010:
I have often translated 'pôle' as 'hub', but this may not be what you are seeking here.

Proposed translations

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areas/structures/infrastructures/facilities

amenities etc. which generate traffic.

I don't like "hub" in this context since it smacks too much of facilities (etc.) designed to function as hubs, notably in transport and logistics (as well as IT).

Here I take it we are talking about large shopping centres, sports facilities, business districts, etc. around which traffic will be particularly dense at times.

I'd also argue with the French since these infrastructures (etc.) do not actually generate traffic, not directly at least. I'd say they concentrate it or, of you want to retain generate, that they generate (motor) traffic congestion.

Looking at a business district for instance, the traffic will be generated in any case, since people have to go to their place of work, wherever that might me (even dispersed). If anything, a properly designed facility of the kind addressed (I assume) should, if it is given all due attention and accompanying work, actually reduce (motor) traffic, assuming appropriate means of public transport are set up.

Fuller context might help refine the translation solution.
Peer comment(s):

agree Claire Nolan : See reference for ''areas'' and ''locations''.
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2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Bourth, My question didn't throw up an obvious standard UK translation so I just made my own up - but I agree with all the points you made."
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traffic generating hubs

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Note from asker:
Thanks Kashew, but I've just looked up this phrase and it doesn't seem to be in common use so I suppose I'm back to using my own interpretation. The problem with the word traffic these days is that it only seems to appy to internet traffic when looked up on the net!
Thanks Kashew
Peer comment(s):

agree Chris Hall
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Thanks - seems an easy one?!
agree Claire Nolan
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traffic nodes

In urban planning, the French word pôle is equiv. to English word node. Also, this deals with Bourth's criticism of the source phrasing. Ahh, the power of English to simply slap two nouns together -- the first modifying the second without having to be clear about the exact relationship (?causation?coincidence?) between the two!
Note from asker:
Thanks Joshua
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Example in French; similar English expressions

In addition, an experimental policy of Park-and-Ride (or Fringe Parking) is applied in downtown AREAS PRONE TO HEAVY TRAFFIC.

http://www.city.fukuoka.lg.jp/promo/english/magazine/02/02.h...

LOCATIONS ATTRACTING HEAVY TRAFFIC demand such as Government offices, commercial centres, hospitals, educational institutes, religious and other places of interest may be marked and traffic generated at those locations should be estimated.

http://jnnurm.nic.in/nurmudweb/cap_build_init/RTP/Module2/MO...

In French:

sFavoriser, par les Plans Locaux d’Urbanisme, la vitalité
des quartiers au travers de la pluralité de leurs
fonctions et assurer la cohérence entre l’implantation
de grands PÔLES GÉNÉRATEURS DE TRAFIC et leur accessibilité
par les transports collectifs et l’utilisation
des modes doux.

http://www.silteplait.info/pdf/pdu/brochure.pdf
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