Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Erzklang
English translation:
elemental sounds, banging [?]
Added to glossary by
Rolf Buesken (X)
Aug 22, 2003 21:10
20 yrs ago
German term
Erzklang
German to English
Art/Literary
Astronomy in classical times
Eclipses in classical times:
'In frueher Zeit glaubte man, die Gestirne litten durch die Macht von Daemonen, und versuchte, das Leiden durch *Erzklang* oder lautes Geschrei zu beenden.'
'In frueher Zeit glaubte man, die Gestirne litten durch die Macht von Daemonen, und versuchte, das Leiden durch *Erzklang* oder lautes Geschrei zu beenden.'
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | elemental sounds, banging |
Maureen Holm, J.D., LL.M.
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| 3 +2 | the soung of a gong |
Parrot
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| 3 | primal sound |
Kim Metzger
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| 2 | archiphony |
Daniel Bird
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Proposed translations
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Maureen Holm, J.D., LL.M.
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
aided expression: multilingual, multiart
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 3 more.
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elemental sounds, banging
I'm not sure whether we're talking pre-fire here, but the superstition sounds pretty aboriginal, so conservatively, I'm postulating pre-bronze, but some kinds of tools.
2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Difficult to grade since everyone is guessing. I find your train of thought most convincing.
Thanks to all for their contributions."
+2
29 mins
the soung of a gong
This particular practice is discussed in many web pages. Apparently the sound was produced by a large cauldron (Gr. calkeion). Just a suggestion.
47 mins
archiphony
My attempt at translating back into Greek; contains a whiff of 'cacophony' and 'archaism'. Whether it actually exists as a word I can't say.
5 hrs
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Mexico
Native in English
Mexico
Committed to Quality and Service
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: German to English
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22196
primal sound
I'd say the Erz in Erzklang is related to arch rather than ore. Erzfeind, arch-father. Erz could be rendered as primal.
WHAT IS PRIMAL SOUND?
"Primal…..belonging to the first age or earliest stage: original; primitive, primeval". (Oxford Shorter Dictionary).
Abstract sound as defined by the Sufis 'Saute Surmad', means: the whole universe is filled with it. Sufis call the primal sound 'Saute Surmad', the tone that fills the cosmos. The frequencies of this tone are too fine to be seen with the eyes or heard with the ear...
These tones are also the base for a musical setting of a horoscope. Only when horos-cope music is in tune with these tones does it given a physically and musically true sound image of the given astronomical constellations.
WHAT IS PRIMAL SOUND?
"Primal…..belonging to the first age or earliest stage: original; primitive, primeval". (Oxford Shorter Dictionary).
Abstract sound as defined by the Sufis 'Saute Surmad', means: the whole universe is filled with it. Sufis call the primal sound 'Saute Surmad', the tone that fills the cosmos. The frequencies of this tone are too fine to be seen with the eyes or heard with the ear...
These tones are also the base for a musical setting of a horoscope. Only when horos-cope music is in tune with these tones does it given a physically and musically true sound image of the given astronomical constellations.
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