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German term or phrase:
Sekundärdiagnose vs. Nebendiagnose
English translation:
primary, secondary, additional diagnoses
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Stephen R Schoening
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German term
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Sekundärdiagnose vs. Nebendiagnose
German to English
Medical
Medical: Health Care
Medical billing
In a German medical bill, under "DRG-Daten", there are four columns:
DRG-Hauptdiagnose, Sekundärdiagnose, Nebendiagnose, and Sekundärdiagnose.
Up until now, I've been translating "Nebendiagnose" as "secondary diagnosis" in English, but apparently in German system there is a difference between "Nebendiagnose" and "Sekundärdiagnose".
Here is an example of one entry:
DRG-Hauptdiagnose S02.1
Nebendiagnosen: S00.1, S02.4, S02.2
Sekundärdiagnosen: S01.84!, S01.84!
I cannot represent the chart exactly in this question, but it is also quite confusing. I do notice the "Nebendiagnosen" only have one numeral after the decimal, the Sekundärdiagnosen have two and then an exclamation point.
Appreciate knowing the difference between these 2 terms and what the English equivalents are.
Sincerely,
Stephen
DRG-Hauptdiagnose, Sekundärdiagnose, Nebendiagnose, and Sekundärdiagnose.
Up until now, I've been translating "Nebendiagnose" as "secondary diagnosis" in English, but apparently in German system there is a difference between "Nebendiagnose" and "Sekundärdiagnose".
Here is an example of one entry:
DRG-Hauptdiagnose S02.1
Nebendiagnosen: S00.1, S02.4, S02.2
Sekundärdiagnosen: S01.84!, S01.84!
I cannot represent the chart exactly in this question, but it is also quite confusing. I do notice the "Nebendiagnosen" only have one numeral after the decimal, the Sekundärdiagnosen have two and then an exclamation point.
Appreciate knowing the difference between these 2 terms and what the English equivalents are.
Sincerely,
Stephen
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | primary, secondary, additional diagnoses |
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| 4 | secondary diagnosis vs. concurrent diagnosis [or: comorbidity] |
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primary, secondary, additional diagnoses
In the document "The Diagnosis Related Groups (DRGs) to Adust Payment-Mechanisms for Health System providers", I have observed three types of diagnoses:
- primary (Hauptdiagnose)
- secondary (Sekundärdiagnose)
- additional (Nebendiagnose)
Hope this helps.
- primary (Hauptdiagnose)
- secondary (Sekundärdiagnose)
- additional (Nebendiagnose)
Hope this helps.
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Comment: "Thanks, Attila.
Stephen"
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secondary diagnosis vs. concurrent diagnosis [or: comorbidity]
The principal diagnosis for a claim is the condition that occasioned the admission.
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A secondary diagnosis is a complication or comorbid condition that appears in addition to the principal diagnosis.
http://www.ahd.com/definitions/ip_diagnoses.php
A patient may have a primary diagnosis and a secondary diagnosis. A primary diagnosis is the reason that the patient sought healthcare. A secondary diagnosis is another condition the patient has that is diagnosed by the healthcare provider.
A secondary diagnosis falls into one of two categories. These are comorbidities and complications. Comorbidity is a concurrent condition that coexists with either the first-listed diagnosis or the principal diagnosis. A complication is a condition that has developed as a result of the first-listed diagnosis or the principal diagnosis.
Medical Billing & Coding Demystified By Marilyn Burgos, Donya Johnson, James Keogh
http://tinyurl.com/6f98wx5
Concurrent Diagnosis is any additional or concurrent diagnosis, e.g. the patient is admitted with abdominal pain, but has a history of diabetes. Diabetes would be a concurrent diagnosis.
http://physicians.fraserhealth.ca/media/patient-care-referen...
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A secondary diagnosis is a complication or comorbid condition that appears in addition to the principal diagnosis.
http://www.ahd.com/definitions/ip_diagnoses.php
A patient may have a primary diagnosis and a secondary diagnosis. A primary diagnosis is the reason that the patient sought healthcare. A secondary diagnosis is another condition the patient has that is diagnosed by the healthcare provider.
A secondary diagnosis falls into one of two categories. These are comorbidities and complications. Comorbidity is a concurrent condition that coexists with either the first-listed diagnosis or the principal diagnosis. A complication is a condition that has developed as a result of the first-listed diagnosis or the principal diagnosis.
Medical Billing & Coding Demystified By Marilyn Burgos, Donya Johnson, James Keogh
http://tinyurl.com/6f98wx5
Concurrent Diagnosis is any additional or concurrent diagnosis, e.g. the patient is admitted with abdominal pain, but has a history of diabetes. Diabetes would be a concurrent diagnosis.
http://physicians.fraserhealth.ca/media/patient-care-referen...
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SJLD
: careful - your last link doesn't seem to use the DRG system
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Ah, well spotted! @ Stephen R Schoening: Please ignore the last link.
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Reference comments
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Reference:
see pae 43
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:qx779tVyWaYJ:www.h...
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http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/medical:_cardiol...
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Universitätsklinikum Münster (UKM): Glossar
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klinikum.uni-muenster.de/index.php?id=3265 - Cached
Nebendiagnose. (engl.: Additional diagnosis; Secondary diagnosis; SDX) Nebendiagnosen (ND) sind Diagnosen die das Patientenmanagement durch ...
good luck!
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subdisease > Nebenerkrankung / Nebendiagnose - ProZ.com
www.proz.com › ... › English to German › Medical (general) - Cached
15 Dec 2005 – (KudoZ) English to German translation of sub disease: Nebenerkrankung / Nebendiagnose [Medical (general) (Medical)].
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http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/medical:_cardiol...
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Universitätsklinikum Münster (UKM): Glossar
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klinikum.uni-muenster.de/index.php?id=3265 - Cached
Nebendiagnose. (engl.: Additional diagnosis; Secondary diagnosis; SDX) Nebendiagnosen (ND) sind Diagnosen die das Patientenmanagement durch ...
good luck!
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this
subdisease > Nebenerkrankung / Nebendiagnose - ProZ.com
www.proz.com › ... › English to German › Medical (general) - Cached
15 Dec 2005 – (KudoZ) English to German translation of sub disease: Nebenerkrankung / Nebendiagnose [Medical (general) (Medical)].
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Reference:
Die Sekundärdiagnose zur Hauptdiagnose wird im DRG-System als Nebendiagnose behandelt
[PDF] 17c-Datensatz -
www.mdk.de/media/pdf/17c_anlage1_anhang_26_04_2005.pdf
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26. Apr. 2005 – ***Die Sekundärdiagnose zur Hauptdiagnose wird im DRG-System als Nebendiagnose behandelt***. Werden zur Hauptdiagnose (oder zu einer ...
Zu Seitenanfang springen -
www.urz.uni-heidelberg.de/saphelp/helpdata/DE/c5/.../conten...
***DRG-Haupt- und DRG-Nebendiagnose (Primär- und Sekundärdiagnose)***. DRG-Haupt- und DRG-Nebenprozedur (Primär- und Sekundärprozedur) ...
www.mdk.de/media/pdf/17c_anlage1_anhang_26_04_2005.pdf
PDF/Adobe Acrobat
26. Apr. 2005 – ***Die Sekundärdiagnose zur Hauptdiagnose wird im DRG-System als Nebendiagnose behandelt***. Werden zur Hauptdiagnose (oder zu einer ...
Zu Seitenanfang springen -
www.urz.uni-heidelberg.de/saphelp/helpdata/DE/c5/.../conten...
***DRG-Haupt- und DRG-Nebendiagnose (Primär- und Sekundärdiagnose)***. DRG-Haupt- und DRG-Nebenprozedur (Primär- und Sekundärprozedur) ...
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Reference:
http://students.fim.uni-passau.de/lehrstuehle/donner/medizin...
Definition Nebendiagnose:
Eine Krankheit oder Beschwerde, die entweder gleichzeitig
mit der Hauptdiagnose besteht oder sich während des
Krankenhausaufenthaltes entwickelt
Definition Nebendiagnose:
Eine Krankheit oder Beschwerde, die entweder gleichzeitig
mit der Hauptdiagnose besteht oder sich während des
Krankenhausaufenthaltes entwickelt
Discussion
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