Nov 1, 2013 14:18
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Polish term

rozegranie piłki w ataku w piłce nożnej

Polish to English Social Sciences Sports / Fitness / Recreation piłka nożna
Nie wiem, czy jest potrzebne bliższe podanie kontekstu. Potrzebuję tłumaczenia dokładnie tego terminu. Chodzi o rozpoczęcie gry przez piłkarza, który dostał piłkę i teraz ma ją "rozegrać", czyli rozpocząć jakąś akcję w ataku.
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Nov 15, 2013 06:04: Peter Nicholson (X) changed "Field" from "Other" to "Social Sciences"

Discussion

Darius Saczuk Nov 2, 2013:
"Make an offensive play" is another term that is commonly used with regards to soccer or football.
We all have wonderful terms for this beautiful game.
Peter Nicholson (X) Nov 2, 2013:
You could not swing a dead cat around here without hitting a football expert.
Darius Saczuk Nov 1, 2013:
Yes, "distribute the ball" is commonly used, too. There's more than one way to skin a cat here.
On 29 June 1950, at the 1950 FIFA World Cup in Brazil, the United States defeated England 1–0 in a group match, so let us not ignore the football expertise on this side of the Pond. And American women routinely win gold medals at the Olympics and World championships. With that said, play the ball is a generic term. To engineer an attack, which often takes place from the mid-field position, the midfielder distributes the ball left or right as she sees fit, usually based on a predetermined plan. I understood the question to concern such a well thought out play. To play the ball could be a pass backward, too.
Darius Saczuk Nov 1, 2013:
@Peter I don't think "initiate the attack" is erroneous. I come across this collocation in US newspapers quite frequently.
Thanks. Prosaically, you pass the ball. A mid-fielder - usually the engineer of an attack - distributes the ball. I like "initiate the attack."

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play the ball


You will find several options for this, each one suitable for a slightly different context. These options will not necessarily use the word ‘ball’. ‘Start the attack’ (not initiate) and ‘build the attack’ are definitely in use.

Listen to Marcin Wasilewski, who says ‘staram się rozegrać piłkę od tyłu’ at 1:07:

http://euro.interia.pl/wideo/video,vId,681475

and compare with some of the ideas found here:

http://tinyurl.com/pgmpald


Or look at this (‘play the ball to the right’):

http://redflagflyinghigh.com/2013/08/blogs/five-things-we-le...

and this (at 52 minutes: ‘they play the ball to the left wing. It’s cut back ...’):

http://live.firstpost.com/Event/EPL_Manchester_United_vs_QPR...

Finally, if you have a moment to watch a really exciting match and two well behaved spectators, you could try here:

http://youtu.be/eWXVnXqWwjw?t=4m53s


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You can build from the back.

You can play the ball around, or knock it around.


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Compare ‘ball player’ with ‘ball winner’:

http://tinyurl.com/qbvw7l4

http://tinyurl.com/oc36mt4
Peer comment(s):

agree LilianNekipelov : I agree.I was actually thinking about this first, but then it sounded too plain. It is one of the options.
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Thanks.
agree George BuLah (X) : I rely on representative from Europe, especially UK - the birthplace of football :) || Charlton, Moore, Keegan, Lineker ... to name a few :)) ... eh, history :)
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Thanks. We even won the World Cup once, not all that long ago either, and my misfortune is that I'm too young to remember it. And I have a friend who remembers watching the entire match live on TV, right here in Poland.
agree petrolhead : Glenn Hoddle. Having said that, "play the ball" needs to be qualified if one is specifically talking about build-up play in attack.
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Thanks. Yes, we have all the best talent. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24549624
agree Gwidon Naskrent
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Thanks.
agree Darius Saczuk
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Thanks.
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distributing the ball in football attackl/ go on attack by first distributing the ball

Distribute is better than the rest of the sentence
Example sentence:

Distribute - Goalkeepers "distribute" the ball by kicking, punting or throwing it.

Peer comment(s):

agree Gwidon Naskrent : might do, although it's not only goalkeepers who are meant in the orig. sentence
20 hrs
True. I was thinking of someone like Zinadine Zidane, who engineers attacks by seeing the total field and making intelligent choices. This is what rozegrać means to me.
agree Darius Saczuk
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dribble the ball, make a move

I think so, although I don't know much about soccer.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Gwidon Naskrent : drybling to nie rozegranie
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neutral Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. : I welcome your contribution.
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agree George BuLah (X) : I welcome your contribution too and am impressed over your feminine interest in soccer, thus I'm cancelling herewith this so unpleasant, red opinion :)
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to set up / to orchestrate the (moves in) attacks

(to) orchestrate an attack (trochę oficjlanie)
(to) start passing moves in attack
(to) set up an attack

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playmaker



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Inny bliski, choć mniej oczywisty, za to bardzo "angielski". odpowiednik poszukiwanej frazy będzie wyrażenie zbudowane wokół "build up play":

start to build up an attack
start moves to build up ...

"Build-Up Play vs Counter Attack"
"3.Develop a teams ability to build up possession from the back."
http://www.professionalsoccercoaching.com/counter-attacking-...

"the biggest problem in support play occurs in the moment of transition from opponents in possession to winning possession and the correct choice of action, do we build up or launch the immediate counter attack?"
"a team which does not support well will find it very difficult to build successful attacks."
http://www.bettersoccermorefun.com/dwtext/supporta.htm
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agree Darius Saczuk
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dribble and pass the ball

proponuję
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to get the [foot]ball moving in offence/attack

Transitioning to Offense:

Your team has won possession of the ball. It should already know what the opponent wants, i.e. see comments above. Your goal is to get the ball moving towards the opponent's goal as quickly as possible, before the other team has done its job of marking and closing down options. In this transition, your players also need to react quickly, perceive where the spaces and opponents movements are, anticipate plays and make the runs and passes quickly. This requires technical accuracy (passing in particular), physical speed and mental speed. - http://www.football-coach.net/transition-play.html

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One general strategy of offensive play that all soccer players should employ is Passing and Moving. This means that you should never just stand still on offense. Whenever a player has the ball, they need to either pass the ball or dribble. Just standing still is a sure way to lose possession. This also applies to any offensive player near the player with the ball. They should always be moving and looking for an opening and providing passing lanes for their teammate.

Another good strategy is to pass the ball and then move quickly to another open space closer to the goal. By continuing to move and create passing lanes, the defense can be put at a disadvantage. - http://www.ducksters.com/sports/soccerstrategy.php

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They exchange passes and dribble (move the ball along the ground with their feet) in crisscrossing patterns; they fake shots to draw defenders out of position; and they shoot when open. Forwards also drop back to break up the opposing team's attacks - http://www.qasoccer.org/doclib/BasicsforParents1.htm

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Passing is the primary way to move the ball in attack.

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