Jul 23, 2002 17:28
22 yrs ago
Spanish term
exteriorizable
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
art criticism
Not enough hits for exterioris{z}able to convince me, although if anybody tells me it is a normal word in post-modern jargon, that's ok. Plenty of exteriorized out there, so I suppose it is possible.
Previous sentence entered for context (this is real stream of consciousness stuff though)
Tenemos que saber deslindar cuál es la materia real de la pintura. ¿Es, en el caso de Fulano, el óleo la materia?, ¿Óleo sobre lona plástica, lienzo o lino, sobre un diferenciado soporte?, ¿Es lo que podrá hacer visible a la pintura, y, anteriormente, lo que la hace exteriorizable, mirable
Previous sentence entered for context (this is real stream of consciousness stuff though)
Tenemos que saber deslindar cuál es la materia real de la pintura. ¿Es, en el caso de Fulano, el óleo la materia?, ¿Óleo sobre lona plástica, lienzo o lino, sobre un diferenciado soporte?, ¿Es lo que podrá hacer visible a la pintura, y, anteriormente, lo que la hace exteriorizable, mirable
Proposed translations
(English)
Proposed translations
+4
2 hrs
Selected
See suggestion below:
I think the more commonly used term in art is "externalize" (rather than exteriorize). You will see in many dictionaries that these terms are synonymous, although "externalize" definitely has more established use.
Here is my suggestion (with a little literary license) for the sentence:
Is it what allows the viewer to see the painting, and even before that, externalize it and visualize it?
Here is my suggestion (with a little literary license) for the sentence:
Is it what allows the viewer to see the painting, and even before that, externalize it and visualize it?
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks. This will do. "
+4
2 mins
manifestable, revealing,
capable of being seen, etc.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Leonardo Parachú
1 min
|
|
thank you Leonardo
|
|
| agree |
Oso (X)
: ¶:^)
5 mins
|
|
gracias Oso!
|
|
| agree |
Сергей Лузан
7 mins
|
| agree |
Thierry LOTTE
: agree tambien pero ¡Que jerga !
16 mins
|
|
sí!
|
+3
1 hr
Is it what will make the painting visible, or before that,
what makes it an object that can be exteriorized and gazed at?
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2002-07-23 19:40:08 (GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
Hi MJ Barber,
You know all you have to do is read magazines like ART IN AMERICA, or any of the art criticism magazine or critics and the texts are often like this. This is the language these people use and it is rather specialized and may seem moronic to those who are not interested or not in the art arena but that\'s the way it goes. It\'s a specific discourse that now has become fused with other disciplines including post-modernist ideas. What can I say? Personally, I find it rather fun to put it into English without caving into completely non-sensical aporias. Whoops, there I go.
:)
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2002-07-23 21:42:14 (GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
the way I see it, a person externalizes something and the object exteriorizes...whatever is done to the object is what exteriorizes it...
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2002-07-23 19:40:08 (GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
Hi MJ Barber,
You know all you have to do is read magazines like ART IN AMERICA, or any of the art criticism magazine or critics and the texts are often like this. This is the language these people use and it is rather specialized and may seem moronic to those who are not interested or not in the art arena but that\'s the way it goes. It\'s a specific discourse that now has become fused with other disciplines including post-modernist ideas. What can I say? Personally, I find it rather fun to put it into English without caving into completely non-sensical aporias. Whoops, there I go.
:)
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2002-07-23 21:42:14 (GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
the way I see it, a person externalizes something and the object exteriorizes...whatever is done to the object is what exteriorizes it...
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
MikeGarcia
2 hrs
|
|
thanx Miguel
|
|
| agree |
Сергей Лузан
2 hrs
|
|
Thanx, what's your name in the Latin alphabet?
|
|
| agree |
Tania Marques-Cardoso
6 hrs
|
3 hrs
Monica Colangelo
Argentina
Argentina
Native in Spanish
Argentina
45 yrs' experience in most every field
Native in: Spanish (Variants: Uruguayan, Bolivian, Argentine, US, Rioplatense, Latin American, Puerto Rican, Dominican, Standard-Spain) 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, Spanish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
16
... what makes it get through to the viewer
just a thought
4 hrs
Сергей Лузан
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Always welcome! :)
Native in: Russian 
Works in: German to Russian, English to Russian, Spanish to Russian, and 7 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
4
expressable outwardly/ showable
as well. Hope it helps in understanding, at least.
Good luck, MJ Barber!
Good luck, MJ Barber!
4 hrs
Expressible | displayable | broachable
Alguna podría ser.
10 hrs
R.J.Chadwick (X)
R.J.Chadwick (X)
Works in: Indonesian to English, Malay to English, English to Indonesian, and 1 more.
View
Related KudoZ points
:
3
... and even prior to that, which brings it into the world as something we can look at.
"It is what will enable the painting to be visible, and even prior to that, which brings it into the world as something we can look at."
Having made this suggestion, I must confess that I find the whole Spanish sentence puzzling. What is the difference in meaning between "visible", "externalizable" and "viewable" for the author of this text?
Nevertheless, and even though not all texts are inherently sensible, I do hope you find a way of translating this into presentable English.
Having made this suggestion, I must confess that I find the whole Spanish sentence puzzling. What is the difference in meaning between "visible", "externalizable" and "viewable" for the author of this text?
Nevertheless, and even though not all texts are inherently sensible, I do hope you find a way of translating this into presentable English.
Something went wrong...