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Spanish term or phrase:
doble fondo
English translation:
(hidden) subtext
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Comunican
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Spanish term
doble fondo
Spanish to English
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A market research report on masculinity:
"Elementos genuinamente masculinos - Personalidad.
TRANSPARENCIA - Referida a la idea de que la masculinidad, como concepto, no tiene doble fondo.
'Lo que ves es lo que hay, no nos molestamos tanto en esconder nuestros defectos'"
I understand this, but can't think of the right equivalent in English.
Many thanks for any help
"Elementos genuinamente masculinos - Personalidad.
TRANSPARENCIA - Referida a la idea de que la masculinidad, como concepto, no tiene doble fondo.
'Lo que ves es lo que hay, no nos molestamos tanto en esconder nuestros defectos'"
I understand this, but can't think of the right equivalent in English.
Many thanks for any help
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(hidden) subtext
Probably doesn't even need the explicit "hidden" :
"...masculinity, as a concept, has no subtext..."
subtext: the unvoiced thoughts, feelings, meanings, and motives that underlie the words that are actually spoken
"...masculinity, as a concept, has no subtext..."
subtext: the unvoiced thoughts, feelings, meanings, and motives that underlie the words that are actually spoken
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Very hard to choose from a great set of answers, thank you all.
I have gone for this one as I think it is the most "elegant".
Thanks, Neil"
+1
14 mins
Lucano Alvares
India
India
Native in English
India
Perceptive, incisive, accurate!
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, French to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
8
false appearances/claims
"...masculinity, as a concept, does not hide behind false appearances / make false claims..."
+2
18 mins
John Cutler
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Spain
A unique combination of skills
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Catalan to English, English to Spanish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
8
nothing going on behind the scenes
With masculinity, as a concept, there's nothing going on behind the scenes: what you see is what you get...
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
neilmac
: Although it sounds a bit like "lights on but nobody home", something my feminist friends would come out with, on reappraisal this could work for me :)
5 hrs
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| agree |
David Ronder
18 hrs
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1 hr
margaret caulfield
Native in Spanish
&
English
Works in field
Accurate, natural and very hard-working
Native in: English 
, Spanish
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
36
no two ways about it
i.e.
"... referring to the idea that masculinity, as a concept, has no two ways about it."
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-04-23 06:47:07 GMT)
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I suppose this may sound very different to the original, but I really think this is what it's about. Undoubtedly, the "tone" of the text here is vital.
"... referring to the idea that masculinity, as a concept, has no two ways about it."
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-04-23 06:47:07 GMT)
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I suppose this may sound very different to the original, but I really think this is what it's about. Undoubtedly, the "tone" of the text here is vital.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
neilmac
: This is not the meaning as I know it (UK), where it means "there can be no doubt about it" or similar :)
3 hrs
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2 hrs
polyglot45
Native in English
Native in: English , French
Works in: English to French, French to English, German to French, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
duplicity
there is no duplicity in the concept of masculinity. What you see is what you get !
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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-04-23 07:52:46 GMT)
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absence of all duplicity
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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-04-23 07:52:46 GMT)
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absence of all duplicity
5 hrs
Ana Larraga
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Works in field
Spain
Professional Translator and Interpreter
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, French to Spanish, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
there is no hidden catch in it
" ...there is no hidden catch in the concept of masculinity. What you see is what you get..."
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