Jun 10, 2005 13:56
19 yrs ago
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French term
murets de clôture
French to English
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Architecture
Jadis les murets de clôture en schiste étaient recouverts de scorie provenant des anciennes forges des environs (Trapperie, Pont d’Oye, Châtelet et Bologne
Proposed translations
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| 3 +2 | enclosing low stone walls built of schist... |
Tony M
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| 4 +2 | enclosing (stone) walls |
Bruce Berger
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| 4 +2 | low enclosure walls... |
Christopher Crockett
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| 4 | enclosed low (stone) wall |
Anna Maria Augustine (X)
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| 4 | dry stone walls |
Glen McCulley
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| 2 | low fence walls |
Sandra C.
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Proposed translations
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7 mins
French term (edited):
murets de cl�ture
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enclosing low stone walls built of schist...
Depends a little on just what is being 'enclosed'
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Note added at 1 hr 23 mins (2005-06-10 15:20:54 GMT)
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I entirely agree with CC\'s comment that the gerundive \'enclosing\' sits less than comfortably here, but without more context, it\'s difficult to be sure if \'enclosure\' will work better. the problem is, not knowing exactly WHAT this enclosure is, if indeed it is any specific one. These could be the walls round an \'enclos\', or round any number of other areas, like a compound, or a park, etc. etc. So it might sound all wrong to say \'enclosure\' --- for example, if the sentence required something like \"the compound\'s enclosing walls...\"; I know Asker has given us the start of the sentence, but we still don\'t know how it fits in with the text around it.
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Note added at 1 hr 23 mins (2005-06-10 15:20:54 GMT)
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I entirely agree with CC\'s comment that the gerundive \'enclosing\' sits less than comfortably here, but without more context, it\'s difficult to be sure if \'enclosure\' will work better. the problem is, not knowing exactly WHAT this enclosure is, if indeed it is any specific one. These could be the walls round an \'enclos\', or round any number of other areas, like a compound, or a park, etc. etc. So it might sound all wrong to say \'enclosure\' --- for example, if the sentence required something like \"the compound\'s enclosing walls...\"; I know Asker has given us the start of the sentence, but we still don\'t know how it fits in with the text around it.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
3 mins
French term (edited):
murets de cl�ture
low fence walls
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Note added at 5 mins (2005-06-10 14:02:12 GMT)
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Aaron Green Associates - Project: Bai Ling Yuan II Chinese Cemetery
Low fence wall and post system encircling entire development consist of integrally colored and patterned precast concrete designed to imbue the project with ...
www.agaarchitects.com/pages/ worship/memorial/skylawn_bly2.htm
Nottinghamshire: history and archaeology | Miscellaneous articles ...
In front of the house is a low fence wall surmounted by a wrought iron railing of elegant design. The mansions of this period were frequently adorned with ...
www.nottshistory.org.uk/articles/ buildingsofnottingham1907/gill1907p3.ht
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Note added at 5 mins (2005-06-10 14:02:12 GMT)
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Aaron Green Associates - Project: Bai Ling Yuan II Chinese Cemetery
Low fence wall and post system encircling entire development consist of integrally colored and patterned precast concrete designed to imbue the project with ...
www.agaarchitects.com/pages/ worship/memorial/skylawn_bly2.htm
Nottinghamshire: history and archaeology | Miscellaneous articles ...
In front of the house is a low fence wall surmounted by a wrought iron railing of elegant design. The mansions of this period were frequently adorned with ...
www.nottshistory.org.uk/articles/ buildingsofnottingham1907/gill1907p3.ht
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: I think you'll find a fence wall is something different, quite specific...
4 mins
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mIs that right? well, as you can see from my 'level of confidence', I'm kind of guessing... :-)
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5 mins
French term (edited):
murets de cl�ture
enclosed low (stone) wall
a closed in stone wall usually made from stones piled one on top of the other
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: I don't believe it means 'an enclosed wall', but rather, 'a wall that encloses'
3 mins
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| neutral |
Bruce Berger
: As you say, it can be stone, but it can also be of other materials... I also agree with Dusty in that it's more "enclosing" than "enclosed". A typo maybe...?
30 mins
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19 mins
French term (edited):
murets de cl�ture
enclosing (stone) walls
A "muret de cloture" is often a low wall, but can be up to 1.8 meters hugh <http://www.ville.saint-lazare.qc.ca/clotures> or <http://perso.wanadoo.fr/louis.chouvet/patriphot3.htm>. If it were me, I'd try to find out (if possible) if these particular walls were low or high.
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Note added at 37 mins (2005-06-10 14:34:21 GMT)
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...I put stone in parenthesis because it depends on the wall: often stone, but can be other materials.
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Note added at 37 mins (2005-06-10 14:34:21 GMT)
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...I put stone in parenthesis because it depends on the wall: often stone, but can be other materials.
38 mins
Glen McCulley
Native in French
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English
translations that read out loud
Native in: English 
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Works in: French to English, English to French
French term (edited):
murets de cl�ture
dry stone walls
...34,500 googles - take a look; that's what they are in lozere, anyway
Peer comment(s):
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Christopher Crockett
: They probably are "laid dry" (without mortar), but we are not told that, specifically.
14 mins
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| neutral |
Tony M
: I agree with CC, as it does say they are 'covered' with 'scories'
40 mins
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50 mins
Christopher Crockett
Native in English
Specializes in field
M.A., Ph.D. Historian/Art Historian
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, English
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French term (edited):
murets de cl�ture
low enclosure walls...
I agree with Dusty's point about the walls "enclosing" rather than "being enclosed", but don't like "enclosing low stone walls" since the gerundive form (if that's what it is) is a bit ambiguous and/or awkward in that phrase.
These are "enclosure walls", seems to me, and the diminutive "murets" tells us that they are low ones rather than high, made of schist, *probably* laid dry (without mortar --though we are not told that specifically), as I can see 19th c. examples of right here in my own dear Southern Indiana.
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Note added at 53 mins (2005-06-10 14:50:09 GMT)
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Depending upon the context, these might also be referred to as \"boundry walls\" --if they delineate, say, farm fields or house lots.
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Note added at 2 hrs 16 mins (2005-06-10 16:13:07 GMT)
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Dusty\'s right about the necessity of more context, though, strictly speaking, \"enclosure walls\" works for everything.
These are "enclosure walls", seems to me, and the diminutive "murets" tells us that they are low ones rather than high, made of schist, *probably* laid dry (without mortar --though we are not told that specifically), as I can see 19th c. examples of right here in my own dear Southern Indiana.
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Note added at 53 mins (2005-06-10 14:50:09 GMT)
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Depending upon the context, these might also be referred to as \"boundry walls\" --if they delineate, say, farm fields or house lots.
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Note added at 2 hrs 16 mins (2005-06-10 16:13:07 GMT)
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Dusty\'s right about the necessity of more context, though, strictly speaking, \"enclosure walls\" works for everything.
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: Cheers, Chris! Please would you refer to note added to my own answer for longer comment.
29 mins
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Thanks, Dusty.
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| agree |
Dr Sue Levy (X)
16 hrs
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Thanks, Sue.
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