Using WhatsApp? Facebook wants your data!
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CafeTran Training
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Aug 27, 2016

Using WhatsApp? Consider to deactivate the sharing of data with Facebook. See the W settings.

Two years after buying W, FB starts doing what it promised not to do: harvesting your W data.

[Edited at 2016-08-27 06:17 GMT]


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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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@Cafe (or @Tran) Aug 27, 2016

CafeTran Training wrote:
Using WhatsApp? Consider to deactivate the sharing of data with Facebook.


Apparently, over the next few days when people log in to WhatsApp, they'll be asked to consent to the updated terms. Instead of clicking "Agree" (or suchlike), click the tiny word "read" to go to a page that contains the new terms. On that page, there is a checkbox that you can uncheck, that allows WhatsApp to share your phone number with Facebook. You can apparently also change this setting any time for the next 30 days and it'll stick.


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CafeTran Training
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Next update: the circus begins again Aug 27, 2016

Samuel Murray wrote:

CafeTran Training wrote:
Using WhatsApp? Consider to deactivate the sharing of data with Facebook.


Apparently, over the next few days when people log in to WhatsApp, they'll be asked to consent to the updated terms. Instead of clicking "Agree" (or suchlike), click the tiny word "read" to go to a page that contains the new terms. On that page, there is a checkbox that you can uncheck, that allows WhatsApp to share your phone number with Facebook. You can apparently also change this setting any time for the next 30 days and it'll stick.


You can be pretty sure that with the next of WhatsApp's frequent updates, the setting will be on again.

Here you can deactivate some sharing of data with FB:

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(Sorry for the Dutch GUI)


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Rolf Keller
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Is there a true opt-out? Aug 27, 2016

I can't get the English terms and conditions on my screen. The language selection on the website doesn't work.

But the German version states clearly that there is no real opt-out at all.
See https://www.whatsapp.com/faq/general/26000016, see the next to last paragraph.

Opt-out means just "Do not use the info for certain purposes". But there are other potential purposes ...


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Daryo
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the day you are willing to pay for services provided Aug 27, 2016

start complaining about what you data is used for.

Until then, like it or not, YOU are the product being sold to advertisers - the real clients of all "free apps" FB & co


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CafeTran Training
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Luckily, there are alternatives Aug 28, 2016

Daryo wrote:

start complaining about what you data is used for.

Until then, like it or not, YOU are the product being sold to advertisers - the real clients of all "free apps" FB & co


How sad, isn't it?

Luckily, there are good alternatives: Signal, Threema or Wire.

About Wire:

It’s your data
No popups, takeovers, banners or anything like that. Your conversations belong to you. We can’t read anything, and neither can anyone else. As opposed to many messaging apps, we never sell usage data to advertisers


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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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@Daryo Aug 28, 2016

Daryo wrote:
The day you are willing to pay for services provided, start complaining about what you data is used for.


WhatsApp does not offer a paid option in exchange for better privacy. And while it's possible to use other chat programs, those programs can't communicate with other WhatsApp users.


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SBlack
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Thanks Sep 1, 2016

I was able to uncheck FB sharing in my Privacy settings, using Cafetran's screenshot.

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Klaus Baumann
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what data do they harvest? Sep 1, 2016

and why does it disturb you?

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CafeTran Training
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iOS 10 Sep 14, 2016

After upgrading to iOS 10, I noticed that a new version of WhatsApp was installed. This version no longer contains the option to opt out. This part is no longer visible:

Screen Shot 2016-09-14 at 09.21.26


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Robert Rietvelt  Identity Verified
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My WhatsApp has no options at all! Sep 14, 2016

The only thing I can do with it is sending/receiving apps. That's it. No settings or whatever to be found!

[Edited at 2016-09-14 20:22 GMT]

[Edited at 2016-09-14 21:47 GMT]


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CafeTran Training
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Germany says no! Sep 28, 2016

CafeTran Training wrote:

Using WhatsApp? Consider to deactivate the sharing of data with Facebook. See the W settings.

Two years after buying W, FB starts doing what it promised not to do: harvesting your W data.

[Edited at 2016-08-27 06:17 GMT]


German authorities forbid WhatsApp to share data with Facebook. Not all is lost.


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