missing ICD 10 code
Thread poster: Ramunas Kontrimas

Ramunas Kontrimas  Identity Verified
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May 29, 2017

Hi,
I need ICD-10 s83.53 code. I find it in German and my Lithuanian but not in English. Any idea why?


 

Jack Doughty  Identity Verified
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Does this help? May 29, 2017

http://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/S00-T88/S80-S89/S83/S83.2-/S83.219A

 

Ramunas Kontrimas  Identity Verified
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Not my code May 30, 2017

Thanks Jack, but I need my code specifically.

 

Ramunas Kontrimas  Identity Verified
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And, in general May 30, 2017

How come, we have it in DE but not EN...

 

Rolf Keller
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Optional? May 30, 2017

ramunas26 wrote:

How come, we have it in DE but not EN...

Maybe it's one of those so-called "optional sub-classifications", belonging to s83.5.


 

Dr. Matthias Schauen  Identity Verified
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ICD-10-WHO vs. ICD-10-GM May 30, 2017

Hi, code S83.53 is from the ICD-10-GM, the German modification of the ICD-10-WHO, "adapted to the specific requirements of the German health care system" (see below).

Here is the German-language version of ICD-10-WHO, without your code (finest classification level is S83.5, Verstauchung und Zerrung des Kniegelenkes mit Beteiligung des (vorderen) (hinteren) Kreuzbandes): https://www.dimdi.de/static/de/klassi/icd-10-who/kodesuche/onlinefassungen/htmlamtl2016/block-s80-s89.htm
As you know, the ICD-10-GM has your classification (S83.53, Riss des vorderen Kreuzbandes Partieller oder kompletter Riss): http://www.dimdi.de/static/de/klassi/icd-10-gm/kodesuche/onlinefassungen/htmlgm2017/block-s80-s89.htm

Here is a history of the the ICD-10-GM: http://www.dimdi.de/static/en/klassi/icd-10-gm/historie/adaption.htm. As you can see, the German modification was at one time based on the Australian modification, ICD-10-AM, "in order to facilitate the introduction of the AR-DRG (Australian Refined Diagnoses Related Groups) remuneration system in the inpatient sector in Germany. To that end, Chapters I to XIX were expanded largely on the basis of the Australian ICD-10-AM". So if you are looking for an "official" English equivalent, you might find it in the ICD-10-AM. This seems not to be available free of charge, though.


 

Alison MacG  Identity Verified
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ICD-10-AM May 31, 2017

Following the excellent information provided by Dr. Matthias Schauen, a list of the ICD-10-AM codes can be found in Appendix A1 here (in particular, S83.53 Rupture of anterior cruciate ligament)
http://www.aihw.gov.au/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=60129553354

You may also find the panel towards the end of this document useful (Ontology: Rupture of anterior cruciate ligament (C0409312)). It gives possible translations in several languages, including a number of English options).
http://www.fpnotebook.com/ortho/Knee/AntrCrctLgmntTr.htm


 


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