Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Chinese term or phrase:
情逾金蘭
English translation:
A friendship better than sworn brotherhood or sworn sisterhood
Added to glossary by
ysun
Feb 20, 2008 16:43
16 yrs ago
Chinese term
情逾金蘭
Chinese to English
Social Sciences
Education / Pedagogy
”情逾金蘭“的摯友。
這四字成語請問英文有貼切的相對成語嗎?
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這四字成語請問英文有貼切的相對成語嗎?
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Feb 27, 2008 21:58: ysun Created KOG entry
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A friendship better than sworn brotherhood or sworn sisterhood
不知英文有无贴切的相对成语,只知其意思是比结拜兄弟姐妹还要深的情谊。
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Re: "不過中文中的金和蘭所象徵的意境,英文應該也有。金是貴重,蘭可以説是高潔嗎?"
Yes, you are right. It’s a golden and noble relationship, but I couldn’t find an equivalent idiom in English. You may want to ask a native English speaker for help. The Chinese language is so magnificent!
“义结金兰”源于“二人同心,其利断金;同心之言,其臭如兰。”
Please see http://www.cctv.com/program/20040422/101361.shtml
“这句话出自《周易大传》,原话是说:“二人同心,其利断金;同心之言,其臭如兰。”这里所说的“利”,是指“锋利”,“断金”,是指斩断金属之类的东西。这句话的意思是说,共事的两个人只要同心同德,同心同行,就会无往而不胜。后一句“同心之言,其臭如兰。”这里所说的“臭”,其实是比喻闻到“香”的气味。这句话是说,出自同心同德的言语,如同兰花一样清香。唐代学者孔颖达对这句话解释说:“二人若同齐其心,其钎利能断截于金。金是坚刚之物,能断而截之,盛言利之甚也。此谓二人心行同也。”意思是说,两个同事之人,若能齐心协力,同心同德,做起事来,就如同锋利的东西能截断金属之类的物件一样。”
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Note added at 2 days6 hrs (2008-02-22 22:44:00 GMT)
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Re: "不過中文中的金和蘭所象徵的意境,英文應該也有。金是貴重,蘭可以説是高潔嗎?"
Yes, you are right. It’s a golden and noble relationship, but I couldn’t find an equivalent idiom in English. You may want to ask a native English speaker for help. The Chinese language is so magnificent!
“义结金兰”源于“二人同心,其利断金;同心之言,其臭如兰。”
Please see http://www.cctv.com/program/20040422/101361.shtml
“这句话出自《周易大传》,原话是说:“二人同心,其利断金;同心之言,其臭如兰。”这里所说的“利”,是指“锋利”,“断金”,是指斩断金属之类的东西。这句话的意思是说,共事的两个人只要同心同德,同心同行,就会无往而不胜。后一句“同心之言,其臭如兰。”这里所说的“臭”,其实是比喻闻到“香”的气味。这句话是说,出自同心同德的言语,如同兰花一样清香。唐代学者孔颖达对这句话解释说:“二人若同齐其心,其钎利能断截于金。金是坚刚之物,能断而截之,盛言利之甚也。此谓二人心行同也。”意思是说,两个同事之人,若能齐心协力,同心同德,做起事来,就如同锋利的东西能截断金属之类的物件一样。”
Note from asker:
很貼切!不過中文中的金和蘭所象徵的意境,英文應該也有。金是貴重,蘭可以説是高潔嗎? |
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
: 比结拜兄弟姐妹还要深的情谊
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Thank you!
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orientalhorizon
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Thank you!
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Jason Ma
: With Wenjer.
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Thank you!
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Angus Woo
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rushidao
: There is no exact equivalence in English. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendship#Types_of_friendship
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Naikei Wong
: or stronger...
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Thank you for your suggestion! "Stronger than" might be better!
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crowdparadise
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Thank you!
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Helen Li
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Thank you!
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Shirley Lao
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intimate relationship / intimate friendship
intimate relationship / intimate friendship
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意思是明白,但是需要润色,不知英文更贴切的说法如何表达,请大侠指教
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Note added at 17 mins (2008-02-20 17:01:10 GMT)
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意思是明白,但是需要润色,不知英文更贴切的说法如何表达,请大侠指教
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orientalhorizon
: 这种英文说法有可能对,也有可能令人产生误解。
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有道理,是容易引起误解,谢谢指教!
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rushidao
: Intimate relationship: a relationship in which there is physical or emotional intimacy. Physical intimacy is characterized by romantic or passionate love and attachment, or sexual activity. See Wikipedia.
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我再想了一下,翻成intimate relationship的确不妥,谢谢指教!
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Jason Ma
: 主要是英文中没有对等的说法。Brother, sister多会让人联想到血缘关系。仅仅凭誓约盟言就生死相许,西人可能不好理解。
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sisterly relationship
金蘭是指形同姐妹之情
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orientalhorizon
: 如果是说女子之间的朋友情谊的话。但"金兰"倒不是专指姐妹之情,相反,原先由于一直绝对的男权社会,“义结金兰”倒是主要指男子间的结拜,但随着社会的发展进步,现在男、女同样用,
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Naikei Wong
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Jason Ma
: 西人应该容易理解pkshu的这个版本.
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Shirley Lao
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intimate more than borthers and sisters
for your reference
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