Sep 1, 2023 10:23
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English term

diagnostic

Non-PRO English Science Medical (general) education
Is diagnostic the word used to define a clinical diagnosis?
Do diagnostics provide further information, details or history as reasons which lead to the decision to name a medical condition?
Are there any other meanings and uses of the term, diagnostics, for instance diagnostic testing?
Is it specific only to medicine?
I'm interested to read about diagnostic testing in education, science or electronics.
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Sep 1, 2023 12:49: Clauwolf changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

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Non-PRO (3): Katalin Horváth McClure, Jennifer Levey, Clauwolf

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Discussion

Neil Ashby Sep 11, 2023:
As a general aside to nobody in particular, it looks dishonest if one claims to be native in a language, but cannot write a full sentence without making plenty of mistakes in said language; it's patently obvious to peers and potential employers that you are not what you claim to be.
Errors in translation, esp. in the medical field, can cost lives.
Lisa Rosengard (asker) Sep 9, 2023:
It's a dictionary definition which focuses on a process of medical diagnosis.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/diagnostic
Lisa Rosengard (asker) Sep 3, 2023:
I didn't wish to question the translation of English diagnosis to French diagnostic. It was a bit confusing so I asked the question about the differences in English, as you and the answer have explained about diagnostic used as an adjective while diagnostics in the plural sense is a noun. I found a definition of diagnostics to be the practice of diagnosis. I believe now that diagnosis is almost always medical and clinical, while it could be also a definition of problems which could go wrong with a computer or a car for instance.
"diagnostic" in French vs. in English "One recent kudoz question was an English - French translation of a medical diagnosis, translated as diagnostic in French."
So it seems you are questioning the correctness of that translation.
I don't speak French, however it seems you are perhaps confused by a case of "false friends".
"False cousins or false friends (faux amis in French) are words that look very similar in two languages, but mean different things. This leads to misunderstanding. English and French have strong historical links."
"diagnostic" in French and in English are two different things.
Google Translate gives these two examples:
a diagnosis of Crohn's disease was made
un diagnostic de maladie de Crohn a été posé
"diagnosis" in English is a noun and translated into French as "diagnostic" (also a noun). But "diagnostic" in English is an adjective, as others explained.
Lisa Rosengard (asker) Sep 1, 2023:
google search:
"Diagnostics is a method of testing a computer hardware device or software program to ensure its working order. This testing is performed before a computer or computer related product is released to the public."
"A diagnostic program (test mode) is an automatic computer program sequence that determines the operational status within the software, hardware or any combination thereof in a component, a system or a network of systems."
"Electronic circuit diagnosis is the process of identifying the components or connections that are responsible for the malfunction of defective printed circuit board so that corrective action can be taken both to repair the board and improve the process." Further searches on google show diagnostic tests for cars which are in place with modern cars where diagnostic tests function alongside a car's computer system or computerized and digital component. Specialized software functions to run those tests.
Lisa Rosengard (asker) Sep 1, 2023:
Some information:
'Diagnostic questions are short and focused on a single idea (closed questions perhaps). Diagnostic tests, at times similar to formative tests, take place in various formats at various times throughout a course of study. Diagnostic test results inform both teacher and pupil about what progress has been made, what the pupil knows already and what the pupil needs to know in the future. Summative or cumulative assessments take place at the end of an academic course of study.'
https://www.stem.org.uk/sites/default/files/pages/downloads/...
Lisa Rosengard (asker) Sep 1, 2023:
Here's a response to a comment from Mr Goddard. I continue to learn more English since it can get confused with foreign language intervention and translation. Not only that, there are many concepts and words with unclear definitions in English which can still be explained. One recent kudoz question was an English - French translation of a medical diagnosis, translated as diagnostic in French. Hopefully that explains the motive behind the question of confusion between diagnostics and diagnosis.
English is listed as my native language, which I learned formally in primary school first of all. I studied French formally in secondary school and at university with Spanish. Later I lived, studied and worked abroad for over 2 years. Since then I've been continuing to learn more English since it can get confused with foreign language intervention and translation.

Responses

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"diagnostics" with an S is a noun, without an S, it's an adjective.

Your question is very muddled.
Are you asking about "diagnostics" with an "s" or the adjective "diagnostic" without an "S"? Can you give some examples.

In answer to your Qs:
No.
Diagnostic tests do, yes.
Yes (you answered your own Q).
No, not only medicine - diagnostics in computing for example, it's used in lots of fields.
Peer comment(s):

agree Katalin Horváth McClure
40 mins
Thanks Katalin
agree Yvonne Gallagher
4 hrs
Thanks Yvonne
agree philgoddard : These read like questions from someone who's learning English, but Lisa lists it as her native language.
4 hrs
Wouldn't be the first, wouldn't be the last, and thanks Phil./I see what you mean, lots of examples around of unnatural sentences from supposed natives. They get found out by the good agencies soon enough and form part of the race downwards.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "It's a concise and definite response. "
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56 mins
English term (edited): diagnostics, diagnostic testing

Google is your friend

Your questions can be quickly answered by a simple Google search.
Search for "diagnostic testing" (enclosed in quotes as shown here). The search results will likely answer all your questions. If you scroll down to the bottom of the results page, you will find links to further search for the meaning of "diagnostic testing" in various contexts, including those you mentioned (electronics, education).
Peer comment(s):

agree writeaway
50 mins
agree philgoddard
3 hrs
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