Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

l'autre absolu

English translation:

the absolute other

Added to glossary by Sheila Hardie
Mar 3, 2002 08:12
23 yrs ago
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French term

l'autre absolu

French to English Art/Literary
L'homosexuel est toujours l'autre absolu avec qui toute identification est impensable.

Proposed translations

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absolute other

Why not just say the absolute other? Just another suggestion.

Hope it helps,

Sheila






de Beauvoir - The Second Sex: Myth & Reality
... de Beauvoir - The Second Sex: Myth & Reality. Outline ... of the “Eternal Feminine”.
Woman as "The Absolute Other". Advantages of the myth for the ruling ...
sally.fowler.faculty.noctrl.edu/INTRO/ppt/debeauvoir-2/ - 2k - Cached - Similar pages
Peer comment(s):

agree Victoria Barkoff
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agree DPolice
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agree CLS Lexi-tech : in deconstructionist parlance it is "the absolute other" "the irreconcilable other"
3 hrs
agree Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) : also a term in psychoanalysis
4 hrs
thanks, everyone:)
agree Marsha Bindel : I believe this is the best possibility for this text.
8 hrs
agree French_Engl
14 hrs
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne
1 day 3 hrs
agree Abu Amaal (X) : better with capital "O"
7 days
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the "totally different one" with whom no identification is ever thinkable...

Just a suggestion...
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agree Thierry LOTTE
5 hrs
Thank you! Have a nice sunday!
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Why don't say just " the other"

The " other " has the meaning of different on its own,other is used to indicate someone of a different race in racial terms for ex.,but it's only a suggestion
bye
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outsider

Another suggestion that I think stresses the impossibility to relate.

Don
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outsider

Another suggestion that I think stresses the impossibility to relate.

Don

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Sorry, I hit the button twice. Sunday fatigue!
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the other absolute

"L'autre absolu" is a word-for-word translation of the English expression "the other absolute", as in these examples...

The Lewis Carroll E-text Collection Bookstore - [ Traduire cette page ]
... 0140367098, And of course the sequel, another inexpensive paperback edition, again
with original illustrations by John Tenniel. The other absolute must-have. ...
home.earthlink.net/~lfdean/carroll/bookstore.html

Remarks by David A. Kessler, MD at the New Food Label ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
... that the average consumer would look at this number and compare it to the other absolute
numbers, like 30 mgs of cholesterol, or 6 grams of saturated fat. Even ...
www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/SPEECH/SPE00049.htm

Divine Principle - Chapter 1a - [ Traduire cette page ]
... The other absolute duality in these six categories is that of internal character
and external form. The internal character of human beings is our minds, and ...
www.geocities.com/dp_book/DPCHAP1a.htm
Peer comment(s):

neutral CLS Lexi-tech : in the cases you quote the meaning is different and absolute does not refer to other rather to numbers and duality.
2 hrs
You appear not to have a fundamental understanding of the word "absolute" or of the expression "the other absolute". You challege to my references confirms that.
disagree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : As cited and referenced, adjective and noun have changed places.
1 day 1 hr
If you believe that "autre" is an adjective, as you have just indicated, then it is not reversed. Autre precedes whatever it modifies, e.g. "autre chose" rather than "chose autre".
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just to clarify

Remarks by David A. Kessler, MD at the New Food Label ... - [ Traduire cette page ]
... that the average consumer would look at this number and compare it to the other absolute
numbers, like 30 mgs of cholesterol, or 6 grams of saturated fat. Even ...
www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/SPEECH/SPE00049.htm

Divine Principle - Chapter 1a - [ Traduire cette page ]
... The other absolute duality in these six categories is that of internal character
and external form. The internal character of human beings is our minds, and ...
www.geocities.com/dp_book/DPCHAP1a.htm

The other absolute duality
is different
from the other absolute
where absolute is a noun whereas, in the first sentence, absolute is an adjective, with other, that modifies duality.
The same applies to "the same absolute numbers"

I seldom disagree with colleagues, and always in the most polite way possible.
I may have not grasp of the meaning of absolute, but I think I have a pretty good grasp of the fundamentals of grammar.

The two quotes are misleading

Best wishes

paola l m



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... despite my typos.
p.
Peer comment(s):

agree Pierre POUSSIN : Agree! What use of being offensive? We can have, fortunately, different opinions! Some know everything; Good for them!
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thanks Irat56. p.
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : Yes, adjectives preceed the noun in English, so it turns the original meaning on its head if they are not inversed in translation.
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