Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
à la tête du client
English translation:
no rhyme or reason
Added to glossary by
Jeanne Zang
Oct 30, 2005 20:27
18 yrs ago
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French term
United States
Experienced, skilled, reliable
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, Catalan to English, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
à la tête du client
French to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
Non seulement les objectifs ne jamais fixés d'un commun accord avec nous en début d'année,mais aussi nous ne
faisons jamais de revue intermédiaire et la note finale ne nous est communiqué que par hasard par le HR Dpt lors
que nous cherchons à connaitre le merit increase.
Tout semble se passer à la tête du client.En tout cas rien n'est objectif tout est fait de manière très subjective selon l'estime que le chef a de tel ou tel autre de ses collaborateurs.
faisons jamais de revue intermédiaire et la note finale ne nous est communiqué que par hasard par le HR Dpt lors
que nous cherchons à connaitre le merit increase.
Tout semble se passer à la tête du client.En tout cas rien n'est objectif tout est fait de manière très subjective selon l'estime que le chef a de tel ou tel autre de ses collaborateurs.
Proposed translations
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| 3 +5 | no rhyme or reason |
RHELLER
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| 3 +3 | arbitrarily |
JCEC
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| 5 +1 | depending on who the customer is |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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| 4 +1 | depending on who it is |
Suzy G
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| 4 +1 | personal judgement |
Hacene
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| 4 +1 | subjective and partisan, on the basis of personal considerations |
Bourth (X)
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| 4 | decisions are made based on rules that vary along with the employee |
Martine Brault
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| 3 | unfair, playing favorites, etc. |
sarahl (X)
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Change log
Oct 30, 2005 20:31: JCEC changed "Term asked" from "t�te du client" to "� la t�te du client"
Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:
Non-PRO (2): df49f (X), Bourth (X)
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Proposed translations
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French term (edited):
� la t�te du client
Selected
no rhyme or reason
without - Idioms - by the Free Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. Definition of without in the Idioms Dictionary. without explanation. ... no rhyme or reason - if there is no rhyme or reason why something happens, ...
idioms.thefreedictionary.com/without
idioms.thefreedictionary.com/without
Peer comment(s):
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Gina W
: I like this one
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thanks gad :-)
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Anna Maria Augustine (X)
: Well yes Rita because that is such a good reference - one I rely on all the time.
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thanks Anna :-)
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Jack Przybylski
: Probably the best translation, as the French "à la tête du client" is rather informal language - which is probably (just guessing) the reason why some voted this as non-PRO
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merci bien :-)
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Sue Pasco (X)
: yes - I would say "without rhyme or reason"
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thanks Susan :-)
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moya
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thanks Moya :-)
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Cynthia Johnson (X)
: Yes, but we have to be careful--when the French use this expression, they dont usually mean there's no rhyme or reason at all--they mean there is a reason, but it is based on subjectie things, prima facie, whether you think the person is rich, poor, black
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to everyone - all the suggestions were good. This one sounded the best in my context."
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6 mins
French term (edited):
� la t�te du client
arbitrarily
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Peer comment(s):
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RHELLER
: absolutely!
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| agree |
sporran
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| agree |
Sylvia Smith
: good suggestion
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6 mins
French term (edited):
� la t�te du client
unfair, playing favorites, etc.
the following sentence explains it.
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French term (edited):
� la t�te du client
depending on who it is
Peer comment(s):
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Steve Melling
: Everything seems to depend on who it is/everything seems to be based on who it is.
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thanks!
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French term (edited):
� la t�te du client
personal judgement
All seem to be based on personal judgement. Nothing is objective, all is done in a highly subjective way depending on the estime the manager has to such or such collaborator.
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http://www.le.ac.uk/tltp/catalogue/phase1/tom15203.htm
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Note added at 12 mins (2005-10-30 20:40:04 GMT)
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http://www.hrm.strath.ac.uk/teaching/classes/part-time-41938...
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Note added at 10 mins (2005-10-30 20:37:23 GMT)
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http://www.le.ac.uk/tltp/catalogue/phase1/tom15203.htm
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Note added at 12 mins (2005-10-30 20:40:04 GMT)
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http://www.hrm.strath.ac.uk/teaching/classes/part-time-41938...
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Martine Brault
Canada
Canada
Native in French
&
English
Specializes in field
Canada
Versatility reliability professionalism
Native in: English , French
Works in: English to French, French to English, French, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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French term (edited):
� la t�te du client
decisions are made based on rules that vary along with the employee
or... according to the employee. It may be long, but that's what it means
+1
8 mins
French term (edited):
� la t�te du client
subjective and partisan, on the basis of personal considerations
The implication is that if the decisionmaker likes the way you look, you get better treatment than someone more distasteful to said decisionmaker.
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Note added at 5 hrs 7 mins (2005-10-31 01:35:05 GMT)
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Originally it referred to how traders would sell the same things to different people at different prices, depending on how poor or wealthy those people looked. Of course it still happens, but one would like to think for the right reasons, like the plastic surgeon who charges over the top for cosmetic surgery for people who simply want to look younger, etc., in order to "subsidize" surgery for people who really need it, like the woman I spoke to the other day who had 7 years of reconstructive surgery after going through a car windscreen at the age of 17. Very truly a case of "à la tête du client" there!
Comme de fixer ses prix « à la tête du client ». Le Washington Post relatait ainsi en 2000 la déconvenue d'un internaute qui avait pris en flagrant délit de « dynamic pricing » le site Amazon.com. Ce n'est qu'après avoir effacé de son ordinateur les données qui le désignaient comme un fidèle client du site, qu'il avait vu le prix d'un DVD, qui lui avait précédemment été proposé à 24,49 dollars, baisser jusqu'à 22,74 dollars...
http://wb.attac.be/archives/sections.php?op=viewarticle&arti...
And I'm not the only one to think it can be closely associated with "délit de sale gueule" :
A propos du "délit de sale gueule" ; expression à mettre en paralèlle à "être jugée à la tête du client".
Le "délit de sale gueule", c'est juger négativement, non sur des faits mais sur des critères liés à la personne. J'en apelle aux souvenirs d'école de chacun, quand non disions d'un prof, qu'il ne pouvait pas sacquer tel ou telle, ou qu'au contraire c'était son chouchou.
http://forum.ffspeleo.fr/viewtopic.php?id=586
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Note added at 5 hrs 7 mins (2005-10-31 01:35:05 GMT)
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Originally it referred to how traders would sell the same things to different people at different prices, depending on how poor or wealthy those people looked. Of course it still happens, but one would like to think for the right reasons, like the plastic surgeon who charges over the top for cosmetic surgery for people who simply want to look younger, etc., in order to "subsidize" surgery for people who really need it, like the woman I spoke to the other day who had 7 years of reconstructive surgery after going through a car windscreen at the age of 17. Very truly a case of "à la tête du client" there!
Comme de fixer ses prix « à la tête du client ». Le Washington Post relatait ainsi en 2000 la déconvenue d'un internaute qui avait pris en flagrant délit de « dynamic pricing » le site Amazon.com. Ce n'est qu'après avoir effacé de son ordinateur les données qui le désignaient comme un fidèle client du site, qu'il avait vu le prix d'un DVD, qui lui avait précédemment été proposé à 24,49 dollars, baisser jusqu'à 22,74 dollars...
http://wb.attac.be/archives/sections.php?op=viewarticle&arti...
And I'm not the only one to think it can be closely associated with "délit de sale gueule" :
A propos du "délit de sale gueule" ; expression à mettre en paralèlle à "être jugée à la tête du client".
Le "délit de sale gueule", c'est juger négativement, non sur des faits mais sur des critères liés à la personne. J'en apelle aux souvenirs d'école de chacun, quand non disions d'un prof, qu'il ne pouvait pas sacquer tel ou telle, ou qu'au contraire c'était son chouchou.
http://forum.ffspeleo.fr/viewtopic.php?id=586
Peer comment(s):
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sarahl (X)
: sorry Alex, à la tête du client is not about aesthetic considerations.
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"implication", in a literal sense. Figuratively it means a lot more besides, and can even mean "au portefeuille du client"!
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Cynthia Johnson (X)
: yes, very true
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+1
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French term (edited):
� la t�te du client
depending on who the customer is
in other words...it could be done fast or slowly or efficiently...it means that a thing depends on Who Someone Is...
the general expression in French means Depending on Who it Is...
but here I would say Depending on the Customer
the general expression in French means Depending on Who it Is...
but here I would say Depending on the Customer
Peer comment(s):
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Cynthia Johnson (X)
: definitely agree here Jane, usually this term is precisely the kind of special/discriminatory treatment the Revolution was to abolish!
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