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Jul 2, 2010 08:49
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French term

domicilié à vs. résidant à

French to English Law/Patents Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs marriage certificate
On numerous birth/death/marriage certificates which I have seen, when stating the details of the person on the certificate you often see the following:

John Smith, né le 01/01/1950 à London, domicilié à {X}, résidant à {Y} ... etc.

What is the difference between "domicilié" and "résidant" in this context? From my understanding, one is a temporary residence (at the time of marriage, for example), and the other is their permanent residence. However this could be entirely wrong.

If someone could clarify this for me and suggest suitable translations for the terms I would be most grateful.

Many thanks.
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Discussion

Nils Andersson Jul 2, 2010:
France might be different, but in the UK, "domiciled" implies a long-term
bond to a place, whereas resident means "currently living at" as per above.
These are the kind of distinctions that keep lawyers rich.

Nils
Tony M Jul 2, 2010:
Try the archives First of all, I'd suggest careful reading of the many discussions that have already taken place, on the term 'domicilier', at the very least... I feel sure that this might be a helpful starting point for you.

It does also depend on the context; you mention a marriage certificate, of which I have no experience; but I know that for tax purposes, for example, the meanings are quite distinct and specific. So there probably isn't one single solution that would fit for all cases.

Sometimes (and I say this with all possible caveats in place!), 'domicilié' conveys the notion of 'giving their address as', while 'résidant' has the idea of 'currently living at' — for example, people often 'cheat' with their addresses when getting married, either so it won't appear that the couple has been 'living in sin' (!) prior to the marriage — or else, so they can be in the right parish to get married in a prettier church or by a nicer priest!

Proposed translations

9 hrs

"resident" unless UK tax context

Bridge says ""Domicile" should not be used as a translation unless it is clear that the word is being used in the English sense of " a system of law by which a person is governed".
Cornu offers:
"Lieu ou la personne a son principal établissement" (which no doubt offers much opportunity for lawyers to make a living)
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13 hrs

domiciled in vs. residing in/at

This is a legal context (birth certificate), no? One phrase specifies the jurisdiction, the other specifies a location. Which may be the same or different.
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M
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