Oct 15, 2006 21:49
18 yrs ago
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French term

le fond et la forme

French to English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature poetry
comment traduire ce concept en tentant de garder le jeu de mot?

Merci!

"accueillir donc
ouvrir se fondre à l’appel
briseur de sirènes
se couler dans le courant
d’une non-réalité
s’allonger **sur le fond
et du coup sur les formes**
danser la danse dissolue
des algues amnésiques"

Discussion

Sandra C. (asker) Oct 15, 2006:
I would love to, Ingeborg, unfortunately, there isn't much: it's a slightly erotic poem - that's all I can tell you! :-)
Ingeborg Gowans (X) Oct 15, 2006:
could you please give a bit more background context, my dear fellow Canadian??Would love to help you...

Proposed translations

17 hrs
Selected

to rest beneath the surface, and suddently upon the forms...

tring to maintain the image of the water
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4 hrs

the depth and the form, the depth and the shape

welcome then
begin coalescing
with the wrecking call
of the sirens
founder in the current
of non-reality
recline in the depth
and suddenly upon the form
dance the dissolute dance
of amnesiac sea grasses

suddenly upon the shape

Sorry! I write poetry... couldn't help myself.

I think this may refer, allegorically, to depth or meaning and form or shape.
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4 hrs

to lay back, underneath, and perform the dissolute dance of thrusting against shapely curves

Definitely erotic!
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12 mins

nadir / zenith

often used in poetry - a starter for 10 anyway!
These will fit if you tweak them a bit.
Good luck

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Note added at 8 hrs (2006-10-16 06:17:09 GMT)
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nadir = the depths either physically or emotionally
zenith = the opposite

you can make the nadir the 'foundation' of the unreal or ephemeral and the zenith the emotional peak on which your forgetful weeds trip their light fantastic ;-)
Note from asker:
Would you mind explaining what nadir/zenith refer to? I'm not familiar with these terms. Thanks for your help, Connor! :-)
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11 hrs

form and content

Oxford-Hachette Dictionary
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