Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

bei Jugendlichen vor Abschluss der Pubertät und Kindern

English translation:

prepubescent and pubescent children

Added to glossary by Jonathan MacKerron
Jan 29, 2007 08:52
17 yrs ago
German term

bei Jugendlichen vor Abschluss der Pubertät und Kindern

German to English Medical Medical: Pharmaceuticals
Bullet under heading "Gegenanzeigen":
"- bei Jugendlichen vor Abschluss der Pubertät und Kindern, weil ein ungünstiger Einfluss auf die *reifenden endokrinen Funktionskreise* und (oder) das Längenwachstum nicht auszuschließen ist"
How to differentiate here "prepubescent children and adolescents"?

Proposed translations

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prepubescent and pubescent children

i.e. pubescent being Jugendliche vor Abschluss der Pubertät

http://www.accelerated-learning-online.com/research/biologic...

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Note added at 32 mins (2007-01-29 09:24:28 GMT)
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I wasn't keen on using "adolescent" anyway, and acc. to
http://www.answers.com/topic/adolescent

it is defined as:
"A young person who has undergone puberty but who has not reached full maturity; a teenager."

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Note added at 2 hrs (2007-01-29 10:59:59 GMT)
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OK, perhaps thisis clearer:
- children and young people who have yet to undergo puberty/who are not yet sexually mature (although the former would seem to fit the context better)
Peer comment(s):

agree MMUlr : ...//I see; so you're right, according to the defintion. see also Dorlands: http://www.mercksource.com/pp/us/cns/cns_hl_dorlands.jspzQzp...
6 mins
Thanks - see my note.
agree Chinmayi Sripada
7 mins
Ta.
neutral casper (X) : Isn't 'pubescent child' an oxymoron?// A child is a someone before puberty; a pubescent is someone after puberty. Ergo: is it ok to say 'pubescent child'?// Thank you! I think you understand the issues more thoroughly than I do
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I think the meaning is clear enough here; but surely adolescents are post-pubescent (i.e. late teens)?/ You need to check the definition of "pubescent", Chetan: the general wording is "having reached puberty", i.e. during NOT after puberty ...
neutral Trans-Marie : Have another look at the ref provided by MMUIr: adolescence: "....roughly from 11 to 19 years of age". Would you call a 19-year old "pubescent child"? Of course, context and readership is everything here...//dep. on individual.
1 hr
A 19-year old is POST-pubescent!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to all, let the debate rage on..."
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in the case of young people, before the end of puberty and children.

Mine is a more literal translation. In the UK children are usually those under 12. You have more or less got it right, but you could use pubescent in place of adolescents, that is "in pubescent and prepubescent children".
The rest of the sentence reads "because an adverse effect on the maturing endocrine functional circuits and (or) longitudinal growth cannot be excluded."

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Note added at 21 mins (2007-01-29 09:13:38 GMT)
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My answer crossed in the post with that of Francis Lee, but at least we agree.
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1 hr

in adolescents and children

Jugendliche vor Abschluss der Pubertät = adolescent
Kinder = children

I see no reason why 'adolescent' cannot be used in the context
Peer comment(s):

agree Trans-Marie
18 mins
Thanks for the CL booster, Manuela!
agree Kirsti Green (X)
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Thanks for the CL booster, Kirsti!
agree Mihaela Boteva
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in children and adolescents before completion of puberty

I think the relevant piece of information is "before the end of puberty".
If you want to avoid those conflicts about the definition of "adolescence" (which apply more or less to "Jugendliche" as well), you might use e.g. "individuals" instead. Yet, I am not sure whether everyone would define an adolescent as post-pubertal; see e.g. reference below about adolescent medicine.
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