Jul 17, 2002 14:26
22 yrs ago
Spanish term
agudeza (see context)
Spanish to English
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Music
Music
Afternoon, everyone.
This is taken from a text about jazz music. It-s talking about Norman Granz, the jazz producer, and Charlie Parker.
Here is the sentence.....
"Granz no era modesto, o puede que siempre impulsara ideas avanzadas en su época y hoy vendidas como novedad.
La agudeza de que tocara Paker con percusionistas afrocubanos no fue del saxo alto, sino “mía, con Machito. Y no era una moda, porque no existía. Fui yo quien la creó”.
Any suggestions of how to get round the pun....
Many thanks
Paul
This is taken from a text about jazz music. It-s talking about Norman Granz, the jazz producer, and Charlie Parker.
Here is the sentence.....
"Granz no era modesto, o puede que siempre impulsara ideas avanzadas en su época y hoy vendidas como novedad.
La agudeza de que tocara Paker con percusionistas afrocubanos no fue del saxo alto, sino “mía, con Machito. Y no era una moda, porque no existía. Fui yo quien la creó”.
Any suggestions of how to get round the pun....
Many thanks
Paul
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | the sharp idea of having Parker play? |
Parrot
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| 5 +4 | insight, keenness, sharpness |
Ra91571
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| 5 +1 | srewdness |
Baruch Avidar
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| 4 +1 | Brilliant idea |
biancaf202
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| 5 | sagacity, cleverness |
Sery
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| 5 | Parker's right on playing with Afro-Cuban |
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
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| 4 | sharpness/ fineness |
Vasiliki Papadimitriou
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| 4 | smartness |
Сергей Лузан
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| 4 | witty idea/clever idea |
Rick Henry
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| 3 +1 | ingenuity |
R.J.Chadwick (X)
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| 3 | avantgarde |
Regina Motta
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Proposed translations
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1 hr
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the sharp idea of having Parker play?
the things you find around here while you're waiting for an answer... well, a take on this one, anyway.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Sorry it's taken so long to grade this answer. Many thanks to everyone for your suggestions.
Paul"
+4
1 min
insight, keenness, sharpness
Larousse
Peer comment(s):
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Maria
: insight fits great!
5 mins
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gracias
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| agree |
Rufino Pérez De La Sierra
: dito with Maria
8 mins
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thanks!
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| agree |
Marcela García Henríquez
1 hr
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| agree |
Alvaro Galindo (X)
2 hrs
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22 mins
Vasiliki Papadimitriou
Works in: English to Greek, Spanish to English, English to Spanish, and 1 more.
sharpness/ fineness
In Cassel dictionary -->
agudeza = sharpness (instruments)
also, in the same dictionary
agudeza: fineness
Personally I prefer the second interpretation
suerte!
Vasiliki
agudeza = sharpness (instruments)
also, in the same dictionary
agudeza: fineness
Personally I prefer the second interpretation
suerte!
Vasiliki
+1
37 mins
biancaf202
Native in Spanish
Blending Idioms Culture Technology
Native in: Italian 
, Spanish
Works in: English to Italian, English to Spanish, Spanish to Italian, and 4 more.
Brilliant idea
This is NOT literal translation but, on my opinion, much more effective and appropriate to the contest
44 mins
sagacity, cleverness
Any of these two words would fit the context since they have to do with being keen to sense perception, an acute discernment, to perceive keenly, a farsighted judgment. Maybe any of the above words could also fit.
Ref. Webster´s New Collegiate Dic.
Regards, Sery
Ref. Webster´s New Collegiate Dic.
Regards, Sery
+1
47 mins
Baruch Avidar
Israel
Israel
Native in Spanish
&
English
Israel
B.Sc.(Mec.Eng.), MBA(Markting), Mil.(R)
Native in: English , Spanish
Works in: English to Hebrew, Hebrew to English, English to Spanish, and 9 more.
srewdness
I would use it as the exact meaning in this context.
Good luck!
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It should be SHREWDNESS , sorry for the misspelling!
Good luck!
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It should be SHREWDNESS , sorry for the misspelling!
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Сергей Лузан
: sHrewdness is quite a solution here, I would say.
19 mins
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Thanks for the correction, mea culpa.
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rhandler
: If you correct it for SHREWDNESS, I agree with SergeyL thet it is a good solution.
26 mins
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> Thanks for the correction, mea culpa. -
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1 hr
Сергей Лузан
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Always welcome! :)
Native in: Russian
Works in: German to Russian, English to Russian, Spanish to Russian, and 7 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
smartness
In the US meaning (for jazz it seems to be quite naturally) to keep figurative expression of the context and as an attempt to pun.
Good luck, Paul Edgar!
Re.: The Random House Dictionary, ISBN 0-394-51200-6
Good luck, Paul Edgar!
Re.: The Random House Dictionary, ISBN 0-394-51200-6
2 hrs
Rick Henry
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Quick turnaround, professional results
Native in: English 
Works in: Italian to English, Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, and 7 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
4
witty idea/clever idea
They're referring to the intelligent/brillian/ingenious idea he came up with to put this particular combination of instruments together.
HTH
Rick
HTH
Rick
2 hrs
Regina Motta
Quality-oriented professional linguist
Native in: Portuguese
Works in: English to Portuguese, Spanish to Portuguese, Portuguese to English, and 1 more.
avantgarde
How about that?
The avantgarde (the work of) the painters, writers, musicians and other artists whose ideas, styles and methods are highly original or modern in comparison to the period in which they live
or the adjective avant-garde with
approach or suggestion
The avantgarde (the work of) the painters, writers, musicians and other artists whose ideas, styles and methods are highly original or modern in comparison to the period in which they live
or the adjective avant-garde with
approach or suggestion
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Сергей Лузан
: Hardly. It´s usually used with other meaning, especcially with French spelling.
2 hrs
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You are intitled to your opinion. However, avant-garde as an adjective means radically new or original. What "other meaning" are you talking about?
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6 hrs
Parker's right on playing with Afro-Cuban
Just to jazz it up a bit...
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percussionists didn\'t come from his alto sax, it came from me, with Machito
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Note added at 2002-07-17 21:50:01 (GMT)
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percussionists didn\'t come from his alto sax, it came from me, with Machito
+1
10 hrs
R.J.Chadwick (X)
R.J.Chadwick (X)
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ingenuity
Not a literal translation -- but might suit the context
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