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写作本文至此,我最想对中国读者说的话是:别的不说,仅凭这几次影响波及全世界的重大冲突中敌对双方都把对方描绘为杜拉根兽,就能看出在欧美等国家人的心目中,杜拉根兽(dragon)的形象都是极其负面的。因此,我们中国人再也不能傻乎乎地主动跳到这些国家中间这样高喊了:“我们中国人才是真正的 dragon!”或“我们才是 dragon 真正的后代 !”(“龙的传人”常被中国官方译为 descendants of the dragon。)
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“既然你说 Loong-wang-Miao 是音译,那不是“注音符号”又是什么?显然,文中的"temple of the Dragon King"才是龙王庙的英译文。”
呵呵,音译是注音符号?
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我没说过 “音译是注音符号”!
Jul 16, 2025
hj58 wrote:
“既然你说 Loong-wang-Miao 是音译,那不是“注音符号”又是什么?显然,文中的"temple of the Dragon King"才是龙王庙的英译文。”
呵呵,音译是注音符号?
呵呵,我从没说过“音译是注音符号”这种话!不知你是故意断章取义歪曲我的原话,还是真看不懂我写的中文。请你重温一下我的旧帖,其标题就是"Loong Wang Miao" 难道不是“注音符号”吗? 正文中我所说的“那不是注音符号又是什么”,其中的代词“那”显然是指"Loong Wang Miao"。你看外国人的英文时,我帮你分析语法;你看中文时,我就不必分析语法了吧?当然我可以理解,你上小学、中学期间,真值“大革文化命”期间,学校里基本上都“停课闹革命”了。不过,这也是因人而异。与你同年龄或同届大学毕业的人中也出现了许多杰出人物。
"Loong Wang Miao" 这些注音符号与现在的汉语拼音字母几乎一样。估计此游记作者 Henry Ellis 的中国助手是北京、河北一带的人,说话带 Beijing Mandarin dialect。
5-14,龙被音译为 Loong 的历史溯源
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在一本出版于 1817 年的书中(图5-14-2),作者把龙音译为 loong,第 257 页(图5-14-2下)第二段写道:“Boats, on reaching this place, usually offer up some sacrifice at the Loong-wang-Miao, or temple of the Dragon King: this was the first temple I had seen…”(开到此处的船只通常会在龙王庙奉献上一些祭品。这是我看到的第一个寺庙。……)。书中对“龙王庙”有两种表述,一是音译:Loong-wang-Miao,二是意译:temple of the Dragon King。
既然你说 Loong-wang-Miao 是音译,那不是“注音符号”又是什么?显然,文中的"temple of the Dragon King"才是龙王庙的英译文。
BTW, 此游记的作者 Henry Ellis 是一位英国外交官,而不是美国外交官。
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