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Dec 29, 2006 18:01
17 yrs ago
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German term

Bestellnummer/Auftragsnummer

German to English Bus/Financial Business/Commerce (general) contract of purchase
What is the difference between the above two terms? -both would generally be translated 'order number' but in the following text a distinction appears to be made:
"Auf der Verpackung ist der Inhalt eindeutig zu kennzeichnen (Bezeichnung der Gegenstände, Stückzahl, unsere Zeichnungs- oder Materialnummer, Bestellnummer und Auftragsnummer, Gewichtsangabe)."
Proposed translations (English)
4 +6 item/article number/order number
4 +4 Order No. / Job No.
4 +1 item number / sales order number
4 +1 Purchase order number / Sales order number
4 order number/tracking number

Discussion

vera12191 Dec 29, 2006:
Bestellnummer appears on Kundenbestellungen (POs), Auftragsnummer is Supplier's internal sales order number (Auftragsbestätigungsnummer oder AU-Nr.).
Sybille Brückner Dec 29, 2006:
@ Teresa: Bestellnummer and Auftragsnummer are both "owned" by the supplier in the case I have in mind.
Teresa Reinhardt Dec 29, 2006:
It's also quite possible that both supplier (who 'owns' the Bestellnummer) and customer (who 'owns' the Auftragsnummer) have their individual, pre-existing terms...I'd ask the client about that
Ulrike Kraemer Dec 29, 2006:
It might be best to check with the client whether there really is a difference between "Bestellnummer" and "Auftragsnummer" and, if so, what the difference is. This will make it easier (for you and for us) to find a suitable translation. ;-)

Proposed translations

+6
11 mins
Selected

item/article number/order number

would be my suggestion.

Bestellnummer - is the number of every item/article belonging to an Auftrag.
And: The Auftragsnummer is the number for the entire Auftrag.
So every Auftrag contains a list of Bestellnummern for the individual articles/items.
That ism at least, what I found when working at a company as a translator.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Ulrike Kraemer : Bestellnummer für jedes einzelne Teil auf der Verpackung des Gesamtauftrags? Könnte je nach Menge/Zahl der bestellten Artikel schwierig werden ... ;-)
6 mins
agree Andrea Black : Nicht, wenn nur gleiche Teile in einen Karton verpackt werden, die hätten alle die gleiche article no. und der Karton würde zusätzlich mit einer order no. gekennzeichnet. So würde ich das verstehen und Sybille zustimmen.
21 mins
agree Alexander Schleber (X) : This is the best version IMO. The article number that is ordered with an order number.
1 hr
agree Sabine Griebler
2 hrs
agree Kim Metzger
20 hrs
agree DDM
22 hrs
agree Paul Cohen
1 day 1 hr
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+4
8 mins

Order No. / Job No.

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Peer comment(s):
agree erika rubinstein
3 mins
agree Laurens Landkroon
54 mins
agree Ruth Wiedekind : this would by my option, too - though the interpretation should be clarified with the customer
2 hrs
agree Radello
1049 days
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15 mins

order number/tracking number

A tracking number serves to track a consignment
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+1
57 mins

item number / sales order number

Bestellnummer is the item number, the Auftragsnummer can either be internally - the sales order number, or a commercial customer's purchase order number. The "Materialnummer" I'd translate as being inventory part number.
Background: many years of business experience....
Peer comment(s):
agree Teresa Reinhardt
51 mins
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+1
1 hr

Purchase order number / Sales order number

In my purchasing practice, after I place a PO with a supplier/manufacturer, I ususally get from him/her an Order Acknowledgement with their internal Sales Order number. So the purchasing chain looks as follows:

Purchase Order => Sales Order => Work Order => Material Requirements Planning.

Purchase orders are issued by customers, whereas sales orders are produced by suppliers or manufacturers.

Item number is usually internal stock/catalogue/inventory number.

Please check the link below for the difference between inventory item, and PO # and sales order #, work order #
http://www.2020software.com/products/Sage_MAS_90_Sage_MAS_20...

"Enter extended item descriptions for inventory items, miscellaneous items and special items during sales order entry and invoice data entry. Create UDFs in sales orders, invoices and history files. UDFs can flow from inventory items to sales order and purchase order lines and are retained in history.



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Note added at 16 час (2006-12-30 10:09:53 GMT)
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Bestellnummer is often mixed up with Artikel-Nr./Material-Nr. bzw. Online-Shop Nummer.
Please check:
1. https://ssl.kundenserver.de/killetsoft.de/bestell/gdl_be_e.h... (pages in DE and Engl.)

2. http://stefan.zwischenbrugger.org/cv/html_d/zois.html

3. http://www.oomoxx.de/cgi-bin/formmanager.php.cgi?action=ext_...
Sie erhalten danach per Mail unsere Auftragsbestätigung unter Nennung des Bestellwertes inkl. Versandkosten, unserer Kontoverbindung und Ihrer Bestellnummer.
4. http://www.helmholtz-hzi.de/de/wir_ueber_uns/einkauf/
Rechnungen sind stets zweifach und unverzüglich nach Versand der Waren für jede Bestellung gesondert unter Angabe der Bestellnummer des AG zu erteilen.



Reference:

http://www.2020software.com/products/Sage_MAS_90_Sage_MAS_200_Sales_Order.asp

Peer comment(s):
agree Karin Seelhof : in many years of practise I always saw p.o. no on the customers' order sheets
41 mins
Many thanks
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