Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Erlebnishallenbad
English translation:
(luxury) indoor swimming pool
Added to glossary by
Courtney Sliwinski
Jul 1, 2007 20:10
16 yrs ago
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German term
The right words for the right price
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English, English to German
Erlebnishallenbad
German to English
Marketing
Tourism & Travel
Luxury Resort
Zusätzlich offeriert das Urlaubsrefugium XXX unzählige traumhafte Relax-Erlebnisse in einer stimmungsvollen Fusion aus großzügigem Spa-Bereich, den blauen Wellen des *Erlebnishallenbades *mit Whirlpool, einer Sauna-Landschaft, dem Fitnessraum mit Solarium und der Kosmetikinsel „Sansibar“.
Hallenbad is a type of indoor swimming pool, but would an Erlebnishallenbad be something different from this? Is there an exact English term?
Hallenbad is a type of indoor swimming pool, but would an Erlebnishallenbad be something different from this? Is there an exact English term?
Proposed translations
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Change log
Aug 2, 2007 12:31: Courtney Sliwinski Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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15 hrs
Michele Johnson
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Works in field
Germany
American engineer, Dip. Trans IOL, BDÜ
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, English
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14
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(luxury) indoor swimming pool
Since I've grinched at everyone else, I might as well take a stab at it.
My interpretation: this is a totally normal swimming pool, probably not even Olympic size, and the "Erlebnis" has to do with the associated saunas, whirlpools, massage department, etc.
It's hard to say whether you can then call it "luxury" or luxurious, but maybe as part of the package deal or, to borrow from a previous answer from Andrew Swift, a spa suite:
"Enjoy our luxurious spa facilities [or spa suite] featuring indoor swimming pool, whirlpool, sauna, fitness room, tanning salon...." etc.
@misterheernau: Yes, I agree we are talking about a fusion of different spa facilities. But I am reasonably sure that at a luxury resort with Kosmetikinsel, a "water park" ain't one of them....
@Elisabeth: I am not sure if you have read the other references that Andrew provided in the "Ask the Asker" section. They clearly document that other native speakers are uncomfortable with "adventure ____" due to potential erotic undertones:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/938671
"Agree with Francis on that... - some are even in swinger clubs..Erlebnis is a wishy-washy word anyway"
"sounds either like something for kids or a place for men (or women) to "meet and greet"
"Adventure sounds a bit intimidating to me as a timid Brit, especially when it comes to getting my clothes off... gulp!"
Yes, they clearly "include themes or spas", but in this case the target audience is upscale, i.e. no kids, no gigantic waterslides, no innertube rides, etc. Sorry, but German swinger and sex clubs quite often happen to boast Erlebnisduschen, Erlebnissaunen, Erlebnis-whatever, see for instance here:
http://sa-le.de/baldis.htm (warning: adult language)
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I'm also not fond of the whole "wellness" thing. I find it's very abused in German, i.e. "Wellness-Konfitüre", "Wellness-Bier", etc. I would tend towards alternatives like "oasis of tranquility" or even "temple of relaxation" in this case.
My interpretation: this is a totally normal swimming pool, probably not even Olympic size, and the "Erlebnis" has to do with the associated saunas, whirlpools, massage department, etc.
It's hard to say whether you can then call it "luxury" or luxurious, but maybe as part of the package deal or, to borrow from a previous answer from Andrew Swift, a spa suite:
"Enjoy our luxurious spa facilities [or spa suite] featuring indoor swimming pool, whirlpool, sauna, fitness room, tanning salon...." etc.
@misterheernau: Yes, I agree we are talking about a fusion of different spa facilities. But I am reasonably sure that at a luxury resort with Kosmetikinsel, a "water park" ain't one of them....
@Elisabeth: I am not sure if you have read the other references that Andrew provided in the "Ask the Asker" section. They clearly document that other native speakers are uncomfortable with "adventure ____" due to potential erotic undertones:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/938671
"Agree with Francis on that... - some are even in swinger clubs..Erlebnis is a wishy-washy word anyway"
"sounds either like something for kids or a place for men (or women) to "meet and greet"
"Adventure sounds a bit intimidating to me as a timid Brit, especially when it comes to getting my clothes off... gulp!"
Yes, they clearly "include themes or spas", but in this case the target audience is upscale, i.e. no kids, no gigantic waterslides, no innertube rides, etc. Sorry, but German swinger and sex clubs quite often happen to boast Erlebnisduschen, Erlebnissaunen, Erlebnis-whatever, see for instance here:
http://sa-le.de/baldis.htm (warning: adult language)
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I'm also not fond of the whole "wellness" thing. I find it's very abused in German, i.e. "Wellness-Konfitüre", "Wellness-Bier", etc. I would tend towards alternatives like "oasis of tranquility" or even "temple of relaxation" in this case.
Peer comment(s):
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Lancashireman
: Agree (Of all the answers so far proposed, this is clearly ‘the most helpful’ http://www.proz.com/siterules/kudoz_asking/2.6#2.6 )
5 hrs
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2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I chose to go with "indoor swimming oasis", but this answer comes the closest. Thanks!"
9 mins
Etienne Muylle Wallace
Spain
Spain
Works in field
Spain
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covered swimming pool with thrilling activities
could also be with entertaining "gadget" devices, like sauna, whirlpool, watr cannon, etc
Peer comment(s):
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Stephen Sadie
: long-winded
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Trudy Peters
: a covered s.p. is not necessarily a Hallenbad
2 hrs
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+1
7 mins
David Hollywood
Native in English
worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
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72
indoor adventure pool
In the exclusive indoor adventure pool, with its recently added wellness and sauna centre, find your inner calm once more. Recharge your batteries. ...
www.plattenhof.com/ehtml/index.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages
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some non-native language sites suggest "adventure indoor (swimming) pool but I would still go with "indoor adventure pool" as it sounds more natural in English ...
The Gustavsvik indoor adventure pool in Örebro is another of Sweden´s most popular attractions of all categories – a fantastic jungle-like environment with ...
www.visitsweden.com/VSTemplates/Page____37886.aspx - 51k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 16 mins (2007-07-01 20:27:08 GMT)
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maybe "activities" rather than "adventure" but I still think "adventure" is ok ... kiddies or otherwise ....
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Note added at 19 mins (2007-07-01 20:30:12 GMT)
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don't grown-ups like "adventure" too?
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Note added at 23 mins (2007-07-01 20:34:03 GMT)
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and I admit that my refs are not native-speaker specific but I stick by my guns on this one lol :)
www.plattenhof.com/ehtml/index.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 11 mins (2007-07-01 20:21:47 GMT)
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some non-native language sites suggest "adventure indoor (swimming) pool but I would still go with "indoor adventure pool" as it sounds more natural in English ...
The Gustavsvik indoor adventure pool in Örebro is another of Sweden´s most popular attractions of all categories – a fantastic jungle-like environment with ...
www.visitsweden.com/VSTemplates/Page____37886.aspx - 51k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 16 mins (2007-07-01 20:27:08 GMT)
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maybe "activities" rather than "adventure" but I still think "adventure" is ok ... kiddies or otherwise ....
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Note added at 19 mins (2007-07-01 20:30:12 GMT)
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don't grown-ups like "adventure" too?
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Note added at 23 mins (2007-07-01 20:34:03 GMT)
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and I admit that my refs are not native-speaker specific but I stick by my guns on this one lol :)
Note from asker:
| THis sounds to me like something for kids, with slides and all. This is a very exclusive luxury resort. Any suggestions of that nature? |
| It's nice to get a laugh under pressure! |
Peer comment(s):
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Stephen Sadie
: nice solution
2 mins
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thanks Stephen :)
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Lancashireman
: Hands up. Who translated the Plattenhof website? 'Adventure pool' indeed...
4 mins
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Michele Johnson
: I'm with Andrew. Adventure sounds like kids careening down slides. At a luxury resort as indicated by Courtney, this implies to me a different kind of, uh, "adventure".
1 hr
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+1
59 mins
indoor water park
check the features shown on the site linked below to see if they match up to what you've got
Note from asker:
| Sorry, but this definitely doesn't fit the bill. We are talking about a posh, exclusive hotel, that caters to the upper crust of society. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
KARIN ISBELL
25 mins
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Michele Johnson
: As a US native, water park definitely implies to me screaming kids, 5-story-tall water slides, gigantic wave machines, etc. I think we're definitely at the other end of the spectrum here though - luxury resort, upscale sauna, cosmetic treatments, etc.
45 mins
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Aren't we talking about a fusion here with elements from different kinds of facilities?
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59 mins
ELisabeth Luhrs
Australia
Australia
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English
Australia
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Native in: German , English
Works in: German to English, Dutch to English, English to German
Adventure Indoor Swimming Pool
To have an Erlebnis means to have an adventure. The term adventure is also used frequently in PC Games.
The correct term for Hallenbad is "Indoor Swimming Pool".
The correct term for Hallenbad is "Indoor Swimming Pool".
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
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Michele Johnson
: Just commenting to be fair to the others. Not so sure about "adventure" - sounds like either a children's waterslide park or a swinger club to me.
47 mins
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Well if you look on the internet that is what these indoor pools are called, they either include themes or spas, wave pools, etc. Adventure has nothing to do with a swinger club, I am sorry but in all fairness that is rediculous
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Lancashireman
: CL5 here is rediculous...rideclous...ridicleous...erm..abscurd.
2 hrs
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3 hrs
Reinhard Wenzel
Native in German
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, French to German, Russian to German, and 2 more.
indoor pool with a wide range of wellness facilities, including
Die "Erlebnisse" sind hier m.E. Entspannungsmöglichkeiten.
Peer comment(s):
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Lancashireman
: See previous discussions on attempts by German speakers to inflict 'wellness' on the English language. // News to me. Greetings from UK/GB.
9 mins
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No, this is used by native speakers see for example http://www.information-britain.co.uk/showPlace.cfm?Place_ID=...
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11 hrs
indoor water experience
Take your pick!
1 day 10 hrs
Aquatic centre
These new kind of indoor swimming pools, featuring water slides etc. as well as lap swimming facilities, are often called "aquatic centres".
See references below.
Just another suggestion. The Arena Joondalup is local to me and features a 50 m lap pool, plus water slides, whirlpool etc.
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On second thoughts, it does sound more like an "adult retreat", definitely no screaming kids and water-slides, and the pool is probably intended for gentle swimming without disturbing hair and make-up, so perhaps something like "luxury aquatic retreat with sauna and day spa" , a "day spa" being somewhere women go for various beauty treatments and pampering.
See references below.
Just another suggestion. The Arena Joondalup is local to me and features a 50 m lap pool, plus water slides, whirlpool etc.
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Note added at 1 day11 hrs (2007-07-03 08:02:38 GMT)
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On second thoughts, it does sound more like an "adult retreat", definitely no screaming kids and water-slides, and the pool is probably intended for gentle swimming without disturbing hair and make-up, so perhaps something like "luxury aquatic retreat with sauna and day spa" , a "day spa" being somewhere women go for various beauty treatments and pampering.
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
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Diana Loos
: IMO this sounds like a place where you can observe fish...
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Maybe, but there are countless googles for aquatic and leisure centres, but see my note above suggesting "luxury aquatic retreat with sauna and day spa"
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