et encore

English translation: and what's more..

13:01 Mar 25, 2008
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
French term or phrase: et encore
Je ne suis pas sure comment traduire "et encore" dans le contexte suivant: Je ne connais que cinq mots de japonais, et encore, je ne les ai appris que la semaine dernière.
Est-ce que "And still" irait?
Elise Lemaire
Local time: 16:59
English translation:and what's more..
Explanation:
...and what's more, I only learnt them last week.
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Rob Grayson
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:59
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Summary of answers provided
4 +7and what's more..
Rob Grayson
4 +6only
Attorney DC Bar
4 +2and even so
L.J.Wessel van Leeuwen
4 +2if that / and I'm not really sure of myself
Melzie
5 +1moreover
Nadia Ayoub
4and yet
bcsantos


  

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1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +7
and what's more..


Explanation:
...and what's more, I only learnt them last week.

Rob Grayson
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:59
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 64
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Katarina Peters: yes, in this context
7 mins
  -> Thanks - yep, context is everything!

agree  BrigitteHilgner: Yes, to stress this fact.
11 mins
  -> Thanks, Brigitte

agree  helena barham: I agree with Rob, but, I would take out the and
50 mins
  -> Thanks, but I definitely wouldn't take out the "and" unless breaking the sentence in two...

agree  ormiston
2 hrs
  -> Thanks

agree  Ccilb77
5 hrs
  -> Thanks

agree  Euqinimod (X)
7 hrs
  -> Thanks

agree  Gacela20
1 day 3 hrs
  -> Thanks
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
and even so


Explanation:
sounds right to me

L.J.Wessel van Leeuwen
South Africa
Local time: 15:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in DutchDutch

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Simon Mac: or possibly "and even then"
8 mins
  -> Thank you

neutral  CMJ_Trans (X): and slightly "off" to an English ear
35 mins
  -> ?

agree  Melissa McMahon: 'and even then' was my thought too
36 mins
  -> Thanks
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
only


Explanation:
I only know five words of Japanese, and I only learned those those till last week. (Or, I didn't learn those until last week).

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Note added at 5 mins (2008-03-25 13:06:15 GMT)
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sorry, typo: and I only learned those last week.

Attorney DC Bar
Local time: 15:59
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alain Pommet: With the stress on 'those'
12 mins
  -> yes

agree  Emma Paulay: Yes, EN would just stress "those" whereas FR can't stress without adding a couple of words.
14 mins
  -> yes, that's right

agree  CMJ_Trans (X): and those I only learned last week
35 mins
  -> sure. Either way as long as the emphasis is on the THOSE

agree  writeaway: with CMJ (for word order)
41 mins
  -> ok

agree  ormiston: I go for CMJ's translation
2 hrs

agree  suezen: and even those I only learnt last week ...
3 hrs
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
if that / and I'm not really sure of myself


Explanation:
&

Melzie
Local time: 15:59
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Emma Paulay: I like 'if that', or 'just about'
7 mins
  -> Thanks, Emma.

agree  suezen: if that, and even those ...
2 hrs
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
moreover


Explanation:
or furthermore.

Nadia Ayoub
Egypt
Local time: 16:59
Native speaker of: Arabic
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  sdavidson: and furthermore, I learnt them last week
49 mins
  -> thanks a lot.
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
and yet


Explanation:
hope this helps

bcsantos
Gibraltar
Local time: 15:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 12
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