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Jan 30, 2012 23:36
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English term
porridge
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¿Cómo lo traducirían para el público de habla hispana de los Estados Unidos? Es una revista de temas generales, y está hablando sobre el primer Día de Acción de Gracias. La oración dice:
It was possible that some form of corn, which the colonists called Indian corn, was served as a porridge.
Gracias.
It was possible that some form of corn, which the colonists called Indian corn, was served as a porridge.
Gracias.
Proposed translations
(Spanish)
4 +1 | papilla | Viviana Paddrik |
5 | gachas de avena | freddipoo |
4 +1 | gachas de maíz | Walter Blass |
4 +1 | atole | Marjory Hord |
4 | Cocido en agua o en leche | Maria Teresa Dominguez |
4 | copos cocidos | Rosa Grau (X) |
4 | quiso de granos de maiz | Victoria Gigena César |
References
Refs. | Taña Dalglish |
Proposed translations
14 mins
Cocido en agua o en leche
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Taña Dalglish
: Yes, porridge is made with milk or water (with sugar and possibly spices, e.g. nutmeg), but the asker needs the actual name translated - [corn] porridge. Saludos.
3 mins
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+1
2 hrs
papilla
Otra opción.
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Y. Peraza
: Pero en la papilla los cereales están molidos y en el porridge / gachas no.
6 hrs
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No necesariamente. Al hervirlos se transforman en papilla.
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agree |
Natalia Pedrosa (X)
18 hrs
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Gracias Natalia.
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7 hrs
copos cocidos
otra opción
9 hrs
gachas de avena
gachas is cooked cereals in general and avena in oat, so I think this is what I'd use
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Walter Blass
: "It was possible that some form of corn, which the colonists called Indian corn, was served as a porridge."
4 hrs
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neutral |
Gracia Navas (X)
: Disculpa que quite el "agree" pero me me hado cuenta, tras leer todas las argumentaciones, que en este caso no podemos traducir como gachas de avena. En todo caso, solamente gachas. Saludos.
5 hrs
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agree |
Fatima Alfonso Pinto (X)
8 hrs
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+1
10 mins
gachas de maíz
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Note added at 13 horas (2012-01-31 13:18:15 GMT)
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Perhaps not exactly "gachas" but it might have been something like the so called "mazamorra" which was and still is an old and well known food in almost all Latin American countries, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazamorra
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazamorra
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Note added at 13 horas (2012-01-31 13:18:15 GMT)
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Perhaps not exactly "gachas" but it might have been something like the so called "mazamorra" which was and still is an old and well known food in almost all Latin American countries, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazamorra
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazamorra
13 hrs
quiso de granos de maiz
En Argentina, llamamos guisos a este tipo de preparacion. Puede llevar carne, otras verduras, etc
+1
5 hrs
atole
In Mexico, atole is a kind of corn, rice or oat gruel. It may be considered more of a drink than a "porridge", but its thickness can vary. (It can be served in a bowl, especially when based on oats). I imagine the natives further north had a similar food. There are Latinos of all kinds in the US, but I think those of Mexican background are probably most in number.
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Note added at 1 day5 hrs (2012-02-01 04:59:17 GMT)
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http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art6575.asp
Mentions more varieties, including some served in a bowl...
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Note added at 1 day5 hrs (2012-02-01 04:59:17 GMT)
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http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art6575.asp
Mentions more varieties, including some served in a bowl...
Reference:
Reference comments
14 mins
Reference:
Refs.
What country is this from? The term used varies in several countries:-
http://www.foodinsight.org/Newsletter/Detail.aspx?topic=Than...
Edward Winslow wrote the single contemporaneous record of the meal in 1621. He references fowl hunted by the colonists and venison brought by the Wampanoag. There was nary a turkey in sight on the table. It was quite possible that some form of corn, which the colonists called Indian corn, was served as a **porridge**.
http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/porridge
http://www.wordreference.com/es/translation.asp?tranword=por...
porridge / ˈpɔːrɪdʒ / ||/ ˈpɒrɪdʒ/ n uncountable
avena f (cocida), gachas fpl (de avena) (Esp);
(before n) ~ oats copos mpl de avena
Diccionario Espasa Concise © 2000 Espasa Calpe:
porridge ['pɒrɪdʒ] n Culin gachas de cereales
'porridge' also found in these Oxford entries:
Spanish:
gacha - gacho
http://www.wordnik.com/words/porridge
chilate de maíz (corn porridge)
Corn Porridge
tastefood.info/corn-porridge/ - United States
26 Mar 2011 – http://www.asianfood-recipes.com/MalaysianRecipes/Corn-porri... · corn porridge - flickr ... Tags: avena de maiz · avena de maiz recipe ...
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Note added at 13 hrs (2012-01-31 13:22:41 GMT)
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See: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gacha for all the variants:
Gachas de avena: conocidas simplemente como porridge (‘gachas’) en el Reino Unido, Australia, Nueva Zelanda y Canadá, y como oatmeal (‘harina de avena’) u oatmeal mush (‘puré de harina de avena’) en los Estados Unidos. Son también un desayuno tradicional en Escandinavia e Islandia, conociéndose como havregrød en Dinamarca, havregrynsgröt en Suecia, havregrøt en Noruega, hafragrautur en Islandia, y puuro en Finlandia. Se han hallado gachas de avena en los estómagos de cuerpos preservados de humanos del Neolítico en el centro de Europa y Escandinavia. Algunas variedades de las gachas de avena son: ....
Gachas de maíz:
Grits, ground hominy o ground posole, habitual en el sur de Estados Unidos, servidas tradicionalmente con mantequilla, sal y pimienta.
Atole (México), una bebida elaborada cociendo harina de maíz en agua o leche.
Read more.....
http://www.foodinsight.org/Newsletter/Detail.aspx?topic=Than...
Edward Winslow wrote the single contemporaneous record of the meal in 1621. He references fowl hunted by the colonists and venison brought by the Wampanoag. There was nary a turkey in sight on the table. It was quite possible that some form of corn, which the colonists called Indian corn, was served as a **porridge**.
http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/porridge
http://www.wordreference.com/es/translation.asp?tranword=por...
porridge / ˈpɔːrɪdʒ / ||/ ˈpɒrɪdʒ/ n uncountable
avena f (cocida), gachas fpl (de avena) (Esp);
(before n) ~ oats copos mpl de avena
Diccionario Espasa Concise © 2000 Espasa Calpe:
porridge ['pɒrɪdʒ] n Culin gachas de cereales
'porridge' also found in these Oxford entries:
Spanish:
gacha - gacho
http://www.wordnik.com/words/porridge
chilate de maíz (corn porridge)
Corn Porridge
tastefood.info/corn-porridge/ - United States
26 Mar 2011 – http://www.asianfood-recipes.com/MalaysianRecipes/Corn-porri... · corn porridge - flickr ... Tags: avena de maiz · avena de maiz recipe ...
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Note added at 13 hrs (2012-01-31 13:22:41 GMT)
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See: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gacha for all the variants:
Gachas de avena: conocidas simplemente como porridge (‘gachas’) en el Reino Unido, Australia, Nueva Zelanda y Canadá, y como oatmeal (‘harina de avena’) u oatmeal mush (‘puré de harina de avena’) en los Estados Unidos. Son también un desayuno tradicional en Escandinavia e Islandia, conociéndose como havregrød en Dinamarca, havregrynsgröt en Suecia, havregrøt en Noruega, hafragrautur en Islandia, y puuro en Finlandia. Se han hallado gachas de avena en los estómagos de cuerpos preservados de humanos del Neolítico en el centro de Europa y Escandinavia. Algunas variedades de las gachas de avena son: ....
Gachas de maíz:
Grits, ground hominy o ground posole, habitual en el sur de Estados Unidos, servidas tradicionalmente con mantequilla, sal y pimienta.
Atole (México), una bebida elaborada cociendo harina de maíz en agua o leche.
Read more.....
Discussion
Indian corn= maíz, ver:
http://www.wonderquest.com/IndianCorn.htm
porridge is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porridge
Many times Spaniards translate Porridge for Gachas because of the similarities and the error has been reproduced till present. But here you can see portuguese call it Porridge too: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porridge
In the text, this people are talking about cooking the corn as if it were oats, like a porridge. As I said, first search recipes in Spanish language on google. You will find the differences between Porridge and Gachas and a lot of people with expertise in gastronomy who are correcting this translation error from long time ago
Saludos a todos.