Mar 21, 2005 10:05
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at such a turn of events
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At such a turn of events, Glavo drew his sword and rushed at the Deadwight, but the Black Wayfarer caught his horse by the bridle.
Not sure about the preposition: should it be 'at' or 'with'? Or would it be better to write 'Seeing such a turn of events'? Please advise.
The previous context:
The Deadwight suddenly attacked the group of soldiers and killed two of them. Glavo is their leader.
Not sure about the preposition: should it be 'at' or 'with'? Or would it be better to write 'Seeing such a turn of events'? Please advise.
The previous context:
The Deadwight suddenly attacked the group of soldiers and killed two of them. Glavo is their leader.
Responses
| 4 +9 | Seeing this OR At this |
CMJ_Trans (X)
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| 4 +5 | seeing his men fall... |
Mools
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| 3 +3 | At this unexpected setback |
Shane London
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| 4 | Upon seeing this turn of events |
Refugio
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| 3 | possibilities |
RHELLER
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| 2 -4 | At such a turn of events |
Jonathan MacKerron
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+9
3 mins
Selected
Seeing this OR At this
Whereupon
Seeing this turn of events (if you must!)
Seeing this turn of events (if you must!)
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Nick Somers (X)
: Something in this vein; if whereupon, the two sentences would be combined
8 mins
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quite agree
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Mools
: This would work too...
10 mins
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Mikhail Kropotov
16 mins
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| agree |
Larissa Dinsley
24 mins
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| agree |
Johan Venter
1 hr
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Paula Vaz-Carreiro
: "Whereupon, Glavo [...]" sounds perfect to me!
2 hrs
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Robert Donahue (X)
: "At this" works, as would "whereupon". Actually whereupon seems to fit better, given the context/style of language.
3 hrs
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| agree |
Dylan Edwards
: or "seeing the turn events had taken" - but "at this/whereupon" may be better. Depends what comes before!
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Alfa Trans (X)
4 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Lots of thanks for your help! Thanks for everyone who offered their suggestions. They are all very useful. "
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Jonathan MacKerron
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English
Retired as of Jan 2019!
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English
Related KudoZ points
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80
At such a turn of events
gets well over 100 googles, so even if it sounds awkward, it is broadly used
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Nick Somers (X)
: Wouldn't be said in this context
7 mins
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| disagree |
Johan Venter
: It sounds really awkward in this context
1 hr
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| disagree |
Robert Donahue (X)
: Sorry, it won't work.
2 hrs
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Can Altinbay
: I wouldn't use it just because it's in wide use. It's awkward.
6 hrs
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+5
12 mins
seeing his men fall...
I'd avoid the expression altogether Andrew - it feels a little unwieldy...
Given the context, maybe you could put it a different way: Glavo rushes the Deadwight when he sees that it has killed his men, so: "seeing his men fall, Glavo drew his sword and rushed..."
or
"as his men fell, Glavo..."
Good luck.
Given the context, maybe you could put it a different way: Glavo rushes the Deadwight when he sees that it has killed his men, so: "seeing his men fall, Glavo drew his sword and rushed..."
or
"as his men fell, Glavo..."
Good luck.
Peer comment(s):
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Mikhail Kropotov
8 mins
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| agree |
Aisha Maniar
20 mins
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| agree |
David Knowles
52 mins
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RHELLER
: "seeing his men fall" is very good
5 hrs
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Can Altinbay
: Several of the other suggestions are good alternatives if you want to keep the expression, but I love how much cleaner this one make the text.
6 hrs
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+3
28 mins
Shane London
Australia
Australia
Native in English
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Sydney-based accredited translator
Native in: English 
Works in: Russian to English, German to English
At this unexpected setback
Just an idea. Unexpected could be justified by the earlier 'suddenly'.
Peer comment(s):
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Nesrin
: good one
6 mins
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Thankyou
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Mikhail Kropotov
1 hr
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Thanks
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Java Cafe
2 hrs
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Robert Donahue (X)
: OK, without more background info. The situation still isn't totally clear. I like your version, don't get me wrong. I am just not sure that it necessarily fits here. : )
2 hrs
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Without context? The previous context is given by the asker. "The Deadwight suddenly attacked the group of soldiers and killed two of them. Glavo is their leader." That's why I referred back to 'suddenly' to justify 'unexpected'.
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5 hrs
Upon seeing this turn of events
This would be in keeping with the slightly archaic language you are using throughout.
What is "the Deadwight"??? It sounds like English but doesn't make sense in English.
What is "the Deadwight"??? It sounds like English but doesn't make sense in English.
5 hrs
possibilities
upon this turn of events,
upon seeing this
spurred by this turn of events,
impelled by...
driven by such a turn in events
distraught at seeing
outraged by the turn
upon seeing this
spurred by this turn of events,
impelled by...
driven by such a turn in events
distraught at seeing
outraged by the turn
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