Quoting for web sites.
Thread poster: Anaviva
Anaviva  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 07:03
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Jan 11, 2004

Hello everyone.

Is there a fast an effective tool that creates quotations for web sites? Up to now, I've only used webbudget, but I don't think it will help me in the case in question. The files that I have to quote for have the following extensions, and I was wondering if anyone knows of a tool that can help me count the words for ALL of these types of file:

.htm
.gif
.jpg
.asp
.psd
.swf

Many thanks.

Ana


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Sonja Tomaskovic  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 07:03
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Do they ALL need translation? Jan 11, 2004

Ana D. wrote:

.htm
.gif
.jpg
.asp
.psd
.swf



Hello Ana,

I doubt that there are any tools out there that can count words in gif and jpg files, as these are file extensions for graphics. Are you sure you need to translate them? It is usually not possible to edit the image itself. (There are workarounds, of course, but it is really tedious to insert a textbox over the original text, matching the exact font size and background color.)

psd files are Photoshop bitmaps (the proprietary Photoshop format). These files can be edited with Photoshop (and a couple of other tools that have a Photoshop plugin). However, I don't think there is a function that allows for word counting in psd-files.

The same goes for asp and swf files. These files cannot be edited that easy. If your client wants you to translate these files, they should provide you with the content in Word or RTF, so they can c&p it back themselves. Editing of these files usually requires special software (asp is probably editable in any texteditor, such as notepad, and swf files should be editable with Swish or something...).

My advice:
Count the htm-files and ask your client to provide you with the content of the other files (preferably in Word).

Regards,

Sonja



[Edited at 2004-01-11 23:14]


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Rayindra  Identity Verified
Indonesia
Local time: 12:03
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Agreed with Sonja, and.. Jan 12, 2004

- SWF should be translated with Macromedia Flash.

Please note that ASP and HTM that can only translated in text editor programs(notepad/wordpad) would need extra times compared to the usual text translations, because you should be careful about the programming codes.

All in all, ask them to provide you the .TXT.


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xxxMarc P  Identity Verified
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HTM(L) Jan 12, 2004

Anthony Indra wrote:

Please note that ASP and HTM that can only translated in text editor programs(notepad/wordpad) would need extra times compared to the usual text translations


There are several programs that can be used to translate text in HTML whilst preserving the codes. OmegaT, for example, not only preserves the HTML code but also enables you to translate an entire web site with multiple-level subdirectories, outputting the files in an identical directory structure.

Marc

www.omegat.org/omegat/omegat.html


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Fernando Toledo  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 07:03
German to Spanish
You can not translate a SWF Jan 12, 2004

A SWF file is only a prepared "fla" file (Flash)you can no translate it, you need the original fla File.

I think you shoud ask your client for files to be translate (docs, tagged docs, txt) or you will need a multimedia expert

Anthony Indra wrote:

- SWF should be translated with Macromedia Flash.



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Fernando Toledo  Identity Verified
Germany
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German to Spanish
OmegaT for example... Jan 12, 2004

...na, na!
good businessman



MarcPrior wrote:

Anthony Indra wrote:

Please note that ASP and HTM that can only translated in text editor programs(notepad/wordpad) would need extra times compared to the usual text translations


There are several programs that can be used to translate text in HTML whilst preserving the codes. OmegaT, for example, not only preserves the HTML code but also enables you to translate an entire web site with multiple-level subdirectories, outputting the files in an identical directory structure.

Marc

www.omegat.org/omegat/omegat.html[/quote]

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xxxBrandis
Local time: 07:03
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not somany Jan 12, 2004

Sonja Tomaskovic wrote:

Ana D. wrote:

.htm
.gif
.jpg
.asp
.psd
.swf



Hello Ana,

I doubt that there are any tools out there that can count words in gif and jpg files, as these are file extensions for graphics. Are you sure you need to translate them? It is usually not possible to edit the image itself. (There are workarounds, of course, but it is really tedious to insert a textbox over the original text, matching the exact font size and background color.)

psd files are Photoshop bitmaps (the proprietary Photoshop format). These files can be edited with Photoshop (and a couple of other tools that have a Photoshop plugin). However, I don't think there is a function that allows for word counting in psd-files.

The same goes for asp and swf files. These files cannot be edited that easy. If your client wants you to translate these files, they should provide you with the content in Word or RTF, so they can c&p it back themselves. Editing of these files usually requires special software (asp is probably editable in any texteditor, such as notepad, and swf files should be editable with Swish or something...).

My advice:
Count the htm-files and ask your client to provide you with the content of the other files (preferably in Word).

Regards,

Sonja



[Edited at 2004-01-11 23:14]
all these generally do not need to be translated, this is the code area. only whatever is there, which is to be projected to the web, generally needs to be translated. For this purpose there are quite a range of globalization and localization tools, which accelerate the realization.
Bandi


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xxxBrandis
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true Jan 12, 2004

Toledo wrote:

A SWF file is only a prepared "fla" file (Flash)you can no translate it, you need the original fla File.

I think you shoud ask your client for files to be translate (docs, tagged docs, txt) or you will need a multimedia expert

Anthony Indra wrote:

- SWF should be translated with Macromedia Flash.

or you would need flash prog. along with the server variant, to decode to txt area.
Bandi


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