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toda esta estructura no está siendo utilizada

English translation: "None of this structure"/Whole this structure is not...

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Spanish term or phrase:toda esta estructura no está siendo utilizada
English translation:"None of this structure"/Whole this structure is not...
Entered by: Gad Kohenov

09:53 Jul 21, 2008
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical: Health Care / Services for HIV/AIDS
Spanish term or phrase: toda esta estructura no está siendo utilizada
I'm confused as to whether this means "not all of this structure," or "none of this structure" - Help!

Las Farmacias del Pueblo se han venido estructurando para dar una atención de calidad que va más allá de la sola entrega de medicamentos, y se preparan para dar apoyo a todas las actividades de seguimiento fármaco terapéutico y fármaco vigilancia. **Toda esta estructura no está siendo utilizada** por la respuesta nacional al VIH.
Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 14:18
"None of this structure"/Whole this structure is not...
Explanation:
Seems logical in context.

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Note added at 16 mins (2008-07-21 10:09:56 GMT)
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Sorry, typo! It should be "All this strcture" or "This entire structure
(is not).

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Note added at 22 mins (2008-07-21 10:15:34 GMT)
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"structure" - am a real typo-master!

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-07-21 11:17:01 GMT)
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No, Muriel. I am saying that "None of this structure is being used". It can also be said "All this structure is not being used" (While you said "not all of this structure", which imples that only part of it is used, which is not what the author tried to say.
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Gad Kohenov
Israel
Local time: 00:18
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Thank you!!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +5"None of this structure"/Whole this structure is not...
Gad Kohenov
4 +2The whole of this structure is not being used
liz askew
4(HORRIBLE, AMBIGUO...)
Teresa Duran-Sanchez


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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +5
"None of this structure"/Whole this structure is not...


Explanation:
Seems logical in context.

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Note added at 16 mins (2008-07-21 10:09:56 GMT)
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Sorry, typo! It should be "All this strcture" or "This entire structure
(is not).

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Note added at 22 mins (2008-07-21 10:15:34 GMT)
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"structure" - am a real typo-master!

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-07-21 11:17:01 GMT)
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No, Muriel. I am saying that "None of this structure is being used". It can also be said "All this structure is not being used" (While you said "not all of this structure", which imples that only part of it is used, which is not what the author tried to say.

Gad Kohenov
Israel
Local time: 00:18
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in HebrewHebrew
PRO pts in category: 2
Grading comment
Thank you!!
Notes to answerer
Asker: I'm confused. You seem to have given both my answers instead of one of the other. Which is it?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Egmont
19 mins
  -> Muchas gracias!
agree  franglish: None of this structure is being used or This whole structure is not being used
4 hrs
  -> Much obliged!
agree  Daniel Coria: I'd definitely go for "All this structure is not being used".
6 hrs
  -> Muchas gracias!
agree  Teresa Duran-Sanchez: Se refiere a LA TOTALIDAD de la estructura, en ningún caso se refiere a una parte de la misma
8 hrs
  -> Exactamente. Gracias!
agree  Carla_am
1 day 19 hrs
  -> Muchas gracias!
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
The whole of this structure is not being used


Explanation:
....

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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-07-21 12:02:12 GMT)
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thus implying the some of the structure IS being used to report the national response to HIV, i.e some pharmacies are using the structure, others aren't.

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:18
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 657

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mariacm
1 hr
  -> Gracias!
agree  Alvaro Aliaga
2 hrs
  -> Gracias!
agree  LiaBarros
2 hrs
  -> Gracias!
disagree  Teresa Duran-Sanchez: I disagree with your Note: you would need a "para" (instrumental) for that meaning, and you have a "por" (causal). The national response prevents the farmacias from using the structures
7 hrs
  -> I must be being "dense" today, as I still do not understand, even from your contribution :-) (This is for Teresa)
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
(HORRIBLE, AMBIGUO...)


Explanation:
Quisiera expresar mi "sympathy" por Muriel, porque la frase está fatal en español es ambigua. No obstante, yo tengo varios puntos claros:

1. Se refiere a las estructuras que ha mencionado en el párrafo anterior, es decir, las estructuras de las farmacias del Pueblo.

2. Se refiere a TODAS las estructuras, porque para referirse a una parte (y no al "todo") de las estructuras, HUBIERA INVERTIDO EL ORDEN de la negación: "NO todas...."

3. El todo de una negación equivale a la negación de un todo, es decir, lo correcto es español hubiera sido decir "NINGUNA DE ESTAS ESTRUCTURAS..."

4. Hay una posible razón psicológica para no usar NINGUNA, y es que se trata de una negación coyuntural, temporal, provisional, debida a "la respuesta nacional al VIH".

5. La palabra "TODO" no hay que tomarla literalmente: expresa el contraste entre el esfuerzo que han realizado las farmacias dle pueblo y la respuesta (negativa) nacional. Es decir, al decir "TODA esta estructura" no se refiere literalmente a las estructuras, sino que es una "deixis de situación" se refiere a que todo el esfuerzo ha sido (al menos por ahora) en vano.

La traducción no tiene por qué ser literal, basta con que exprese el contraste (con un HOWEVER, por ejemplo):

However, these structures haven´t been used because of...

En suma, la respuesta de desertfox es la correcta


Teresa Duran-Sanchez
Spain
Local time: 22:18
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  liz askew: I admit, I am totally confused.
32 mins
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