Dec 29, 2011 15:12
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Spanish term

EL DESAPARECIDO MONASTERIO

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EL DESAPARECIDO MONASTERIO de xxx: PLANOS INÉDITOS DEL SIGLO XVIII

It's the title of a paper by a professor.

Thanks a lot!

Discussion

Kunle Ladeinde Dec 29, 2011:
I will translate it as "The monastery that disappeared". Also a more poetic translation can be "the monastery that ceased to exist"
philgoddard Dec 29, 2011:
Gosh, it took a long time to extract that information!
Laura Iglesias (asker) Dec 29, 2011:
the text is very short but it does say: hoy desaparecido, salvo los restos declarados Monumento Histórico-artístico en el año...
philgoddard Dec 29, 2011:
Is it a different building to the convento, which is still intact? I can't find any references to a monastery.
http://www.artesacro.org/conocersevilla/templos/conventos/sa...
And surely the text itself gives some clues as to whether the ruins still exist? Have you read the whole document? Would "former monastery" be appropriate?
Laura Iglesias (asker) Dec 29, 2011:
Monasterio de San Agustín en Sevilla
philgoddard Dec 29, 2011:
Why don't you tell us which monastery it is? You're not giving away any secrets by doing so.
Laura Iglesias (asker) Dec 29, 2011:
The paper is about one monastery only. I'm not sure if the building still exists but if it does, the paper refers to the old building (12th century)
Jenni Lukac (X) Dec 29, 2011:
I think it matters whether the paper is about one monastery or several.
ormiston Dec 29, 2011:
i.e. the now defunct monastery? though here the focus is on the building itself
Jenni Lukac (X) Dec 29, 2011:
question: Is the gist of the matter that they are no longer used for monastic purposes, or that they do not (or barely) physically exist as buildings?
Laura Iglesias (asker) Dec 29, 2011:
It is an abstract on architecture. What the author means is that the monastery does not exist anymore, only the remains of the building
ormiston Dec 29, 2011:
but we can presume it means there are not even ruins left.And as the paper is about the pre existing monastery the term 'site' won't work. Very tough one unless you go for literal.
Jenni Lukac (X) Dec 29, 2011:
I think a bit more information will be necessary here...

Proposed translations

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the ruined monastery of...

in that case
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agree philgoddard : Or former monastery.
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agree Barbara L Pavlik : Given teh information that has come up in the discussion, I would go with this or "the ruins of the monastery"
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"the ruins of..." might put the focus on the little left standing rather than on the original whole, no?
agree Charles Davis : I can't think of anything better than this. I don't think "former monastery" will do, because that would mean that it still exists but is now used for some other purpose.
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The long gone Monastery

an option, Good Luck!

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Northern Spain, 6th - Google Books Result
books.google.com.sv/books?isbn=1860113958...
Dana Facaros, Michael Pauls - 2009 - Travel - 376 pages
From the exterior you can seethe ruined Gothic cloister of the long-gone monastery and the pretty Romanesque- Gothic portal, decorated with reading and ...
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agree Alistair Ian Spearing Ortiz
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Thank you Alistair
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The Vanished (Now Vanished) Monastery

Without more context:

http://www.linguee.com/english-spanish/search?source=auto&qu...

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could also be "missing" instead of vanished
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agree patinba
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Thanks :)
agree David Ronder : Definitely "now vanished", especially given the context "hoy desparecido".
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Thanks David. :)
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the abandoned monastery

If it's the monks who have gone...
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neutral Benjamin A Flores : see the discussion
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It has been abandoned by the monks, and is in ruins.
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the extinct monastery

My 2 cents worth as Ramey would say. A slightly unusual use of the word extinct, but fairly common.
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agree Natalia Pedrosa (X) : I like this option better, since the monastery, I presume, is no longer there. Happy New Year!
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Thanks, Natalia and feliz ano nuevo!
agree Luis Rey Ballesteros (Luiroi) : This was my same thought as soon as as I saw the question. Happy New Year!
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Thank you, Luis y feliz ano nuevo
neutral ormiston : I am not surprised. - the web can come up with virtually anything! The first mention is about 'Upper Austria' in a translated-sounding article. Mind you, I wonder if the whole 'no longer surviving' idea is really necessary in the title.
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You'd be surprised how many extinct monasteries there are on the web!
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the one-time monastery

After reading the discussion, etc.
"the one-time monastery of....: Unpublished plans..."
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