entourage

English translation: family and friends, relatives and relations, family/social circle

11:42 Feb 1, 2022

French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Law/Patents - General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters / In a will

French term or phrase: entourage

Related to my previous question pls see below thanks, not come across this before

En ma qualité de notaire chargé du règlement de" la succession de la personne ci-dessus visée, je vous informe que celle-ci vous a institué légataire universelle.
Vous voudrez bien trouver sous ce pli une copie de son testament.
Selon son entourage madame xxx était célibataire sans enfant.
Il conviendrait de procéder à une ouverture avec un serrurier dans les meilleurs délais et peut être pourrions nous procéder par la même occasion à l'inventaire du mobilier.
Je vous remercie de m'adresser votre comparution.

EirTranslations KudoZ activity Questions: 8012 (3 open) (42 closed without grading) Answers: 461 Ireland
Local time: 18:03

English translation:family and friends, relatives and relations, family/social circle

Explanation:
It's quite a generic term and includes those who are close to an individual, extending to family and friends, relatives and relations, people close to X.

https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/entourage

"B.− Ensemble des personnes qui vivent habituellement auprès (de quelqu'un). Les gens, les personnes de (son) entourage. Je commence à comprendre que les saints devaient être un peu agaçants pour leur entourage (Montherl., Maître Sant.,1947, II, 3, p. 636).Son entourage le gâte par trop de complaisances (Martin du G., Notes Gide,1951, p. 1396):
Personne dans mon entourage n'était aussi drôle, aussi intéressant, aussi brillant que lui; ... Beauvoir, Mémoires d'une jeune fille rangée,1958, p. 28."

https://dictionnaire.lerobert.com/definition/entourage

"entourage nom masculin
Personnes qui entourent habituellement qqn, et vivent dans sa familiarité. ➙ compagnie. Une personne de son entourage."

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Note added at 1 hr (2022-02-01 13:22:55 GMT)
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Further references for the usage of "social" in "social circle" and for "relations", etc; in support of a wide range of possible meanings.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/example/english/social-circ...
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/social-...
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/relation...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_relation

Selected response from:

Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 19:03

Grading comment

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4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

5 +7

family and friends, relatives and relations, family/social circle

Nikki Scott-Despaigne

4 +6

those around her

Steve Robbie

3 +3

(leg.) from personal in/enquiries made of her contacts; (coll.) according to those who knew her

Adrian MM.

4 -1

entourage

Jennifer Levey

4 -2

Ses proches

Nathalie Beaudelot

Discussion entries: 4

Answers

19 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -2

Ses proches

Explanation:
Membre de sa famille

Nathalie Beaudelot
Ireland
Local time: 18:03
Native speaker of:

French

30 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

entourage

Explanation:
The same word is used in English, to mean the same thing: the group of people who are closely associated with an individual.

Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 13:03
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 43

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

Yvonne Gallagher: not in this context unless a famous/important person https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/entoura... never said it was always necessary! Can even sometimes be used jokingly. I said IN THIS CONTEXT

33 mins

-> Being famour/important is not a pre-requisite for having an 'entourage' in English.

neutral

Lara Barnett: Not as a general form of expression though.// But this part of the text is clearly from the notaries current letter, rather than the will itself.

38 mins

-> The ST is a will, probably drafted by a lawyer, hence not confined to 'general forms of expression'.//OK, drafted by a notary - but don't notaries use the same dictionaries, the same hifalutin' style, as most lawyers? Of course they do!

disagree

AllegroTrans: I have never seen this word used in English in THIS context; and it;s not from a legal doc, it's from a letter

47 mins

38 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +6

those around her

Explanation:
According to those around her, Ms xxx was single and had no children.

Agree with Carol (discussion entry) - it doesn't seem to be a legal term as such.

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Note added at 53 mins (2022-02-01 12:36:55 GMT)
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Quite literally, your entourage means the people around you.

As quoted by Nikki S-D above:
"entourage
Personnes qui entourent habituellement qqn"

Steve Robbie
United Kingdom
Local time: 18:03
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Yvonne Gallagher: or "those who knew her" / see this has been "lifted" by someone forever bitching about copycats.LOL

23 mins

agree

Lara Barnett

31 mins

neutral

Jennifer Levey: OK in layman's language, but this is a formal document, a will, drafted by a lawyer using the appropriate terminology. // Try telling them that! :)

37 mins

-> Nothing prevents lawyers from writing in plain language.

agree

AllegroTrans: Layman's language but quite suitable here; the text appears to be a letter from a notary to a lay client, so not a formal document at all

40 mins

-> Exactly. It's natural language and deserves a natural translation.

agree

Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Layman's language and used in multiple contexts including social, medical, legal and others.

53 mins

agree

Bourth: The term that came naturally to me and IMHO is no less formal than 'entourage'.

3 hrs

agree

SafeTex: I like Yvonne's idea (those who know her)

9 hrs

36 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +7

family and friends, relatives and relations, family/social circle

Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 19:03
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 119

Grading comment

Selected automatically based on peer agreement.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Lara Barnett: Family & friends....

33 mins

neutral

Jennifer Levey: Far too specific - entourage can include the house-keeper, cleaning-lady, neighbours, and a host of other people.//In the English language and culture I discovered as a child, 'relations' means 'members of the family'.

33 mins

-> Indeed. That is understood in the term "relations" (in "relatives and relations") and "social circle" (in "family and social circle"), both terms here being read as widely as required. Consider a wider meaning of the term "social".

agree

abe(L)solano: Relatives and relations, yes.

43 mins

agree

AllegroTrans: Family & friends...and yes and even the cleaning lady may well be called upon by the notary to attest (e.g. if she was present at the death or knew where the will was kept)

43 mins

agree

Phillip North

45 mins

agree

Yolanda Broad

5 hrs

agree

Anastasia Kalantzi: Yes, as we might as well say in more formal terms "her family and friendly circle or milieu".

9 hrs

neutral

SafeTex: I'm not sure that family is okay here as she was single and had no children.I feel that a more general term might be safer here

9 hrs

agree

Andrew Paul Kennett

1 day 22 hrs

7 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

selon son entourage (leg.) from personal in/enquiries made of her contacts; (coll.) according to those who knew her

Explanation:
A presumption like this raises the spectre / specter of 'making in/enquiries' of those 'likely to have known' the deceased /decedent : cut to the 'well-known' English case of Chard vs. Chard (1956) and of the Anglo-Irish aristocrat, Lucky Lord Lucan.

NB 'those around her' is already in the glossaries - see the second weblink.

Example sentence(s):

all due inquiries have been made appropriate to the circumstances (Chard v. Chard [1956] P259 (PD)

Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/medical-general/...
Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/other/98922-inco...

Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

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