Oct 29, 2004 13:57
19 yrs ago
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English term

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Heidi Stone-Schaller Oct 29, 2004:
Are you asking which word you should use in a sentence such as "it's so weird/strange that I can't find my hairband"?
Non-ProZ.com Oct 29, 2004:
To Cormac: not only teenagers but students as well
Non-ProZ.com Oct 29, 2004:
pragmatical difference
Non-ProZ.com Oct 29, 2004:
I should rather ask what is the pragmatical here rather than semantical
Mikhail Kropotov Oct 29, 2004:
A very good question!

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odd v. unknown

I think the difference is minimal, but the word "strange" suggests "unknown (of before)", whereas the word "weird" suggests "odd" or deviating from the norm.

I think that many people (including myself) don't give it much thought and use both terms interchangeably. :-)

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In fact, I use the term \"weird\" quite often - I am neither teenager nor student; I think it depends a lot on where a person grows up.

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Ahem, \"grew up\"... ;-)
Peer comment(s):

agree Charlie Bavington : haven't looked it up anywhere, but I like this explanation.
10 mins
agree David Moore (X) : I'll go with this, too
28 mins
agree Julie Roy
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agree nlingua : an excellent explanation - I couldn't think of anything!!
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agree J. Leo (X) : where and when a person grew up. I think wierd is more common these days, but your explanation of the nuance is good.
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agree mportal : yes, a strange country, for example would probably mean unknown, a weird country, on the other hand, is not as you'd expect, (probably in a negative way) but could be quite familiar to the writer
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agree Krisztina Lelik
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agree humbird : Yes there is more value judgement attached to "weird".
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agree Mikhail Kropotov : I had pondered this question a LOT, but not enough to enter an answer. I really like yours, though.
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1 min

weird usually has a negative connotation, more so than strange

in my experience

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weird is generally a \'stronger\' word, meaning strange to a more severe degree than strange itself...
Peer comment(s):

agree Cormac Bracken : Also, teenagers over-use "weird" :-)
1 min
thanks :)
agree jccantrell : strange is just out of the ordinary, wierd is WAAAAAY out of the ordinary.
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thanks
agree Julie Roy
59 mins
thanks Julie :)
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54 mins

totally depends on local usage (interchangeable)

my colleagues have explained their understanding and, of course, they are correct.

Other similar terms are bizarre, out-of-the-ordinary, incomprehensible, unsuitable.

For example,
"his hair looks wierd today" (it usually looks ok but he did something to it)

"I do not find it strange that his boss got angry"

seems interchangeable, right?
Peer comment(s):

agree Julie Roy
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2 hrs

influence of supernatural v. out of the ordinary

The original, and still persisting, meaning of weird has to do with something that is uncanny, unexplainable in terms of ordinary reality. "I" didn't lose that hairband, it must have been spirited away by supernatural forces. Strange, as some others have said, would merely mean it is odd that it cannot be found (implication: usually I have no trouble finding the hairband, how unusual that today I can't find it...maybe someone else took it, but that someone probably wouldn't be poltergeists).
Peer comment(s):

agree Attila Piróth
12 mins
Thank you, Attila
agree Tony M : Yes, even though 'weird' is often used in senses that depart from its /// Goody, so am I! To me, as an ex-theatre-person, it's "THAT play"!
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Thanks, Dusty. I am very etymologically minded and also never hear the word "weird" without thinking of Macbeth.//Yes, sorry, my son the Shakespearean actor would take me to task for calling it by its name.
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weird may imply an unearthly or supernatural strangeness; strange stresses unfamiliarity

In Webster's (Ninth New) Collegiate Dictionary you can find this:

WEIRD (EERIE, UNCANNY) mean misteriously strange or fantastic. WEIRD may imply an unearthly or supernatural strangeness or it may stress queerness or oddness...

STRANGE (SINGULAR, UNIQUE, PECULIAR, ECCENTRIC, ERRATIC, ODD, QUEER, QUAINT, OUTLANDISH) mean departing from what is ordinary, usual, or to be expected. STRANGE stresses unfamiliarity and may apply to the foreign, the unnatural, the unaccountable...

Peer comment(s):

agree Deborah Workman : Yep. I'd say that this is the actual difference in meaning. In describing a lost hairband, the terms might be used interchangeably unless the speaker thinks the hairband was spirited away/levitated/dematerialized/beamed up, in which case that IS weird!
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1 day 10 hrs

Depends

**Weird: uncanny; supernatural; STRANGE; queer; incomprehensible; odd; peculiar; bizarre; eerie; unearthly etc.

**Strange: unusual; peculiar; surprising; eccentric;; novel; alien; foreign; bizarre; odd; WIERD; uncommon; unknown; exotic; curious; funny; quaint; extraordinary; inexplicable; abnormal; remarkable; atypical etc.

The above meanings are from the Oxford Dictionary and Thesaurus, American Edition.

In this context of not finding a hairband, I think both can be used to mean the same thing. But in other contexts, the two may not be interchangeable all the time, for there is a degree of strangeness or weirdness to both, which will make the meaning different.

As a peer has mentioned, weird has more of a negative meaning.
We all write or talk all the time; but isn't it weird that when we stop to ponder on similar words, and about their appropriateness in certain context, they become so difficult!


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It is so wierd, where did this But come from?
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