Aug 1, 2004 09:49
20 yrs ago
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French term

DÉFORMATION PROFESSIONNELLE

French to English Other Other
IT MEANS YOU ARE SO INFLUENCED BY YOUR JOB THAT YOU CARRY ON BEHAVING IN YOUR FREE TIME AS THOUGH YOU WERE STILL AT WORK

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Aug 3, 2004:
I think the nearest equivalent commonly used and understood is workaholic - thanx karena!, but unfortunately its meaning is not the same! i think ill settle for mental conditioning caused by your job, even if its a bit of a mouthful!!
Non-ProZ.com Aug 2, 2004:
ill leave it open longer because none of the excellent translations proposed would be as readily used/understood by a non francophone public as the french equivalent. any comments?
Non-ProZ.com Aug 2, 2004:
thank you everyone for your suggestions

Proposed translations

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French term (edited): D�FORMATION PROFESSIONNELLE
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professional bias

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économie politique et sociale
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déformation professionnelle n. f.
professional bias


Définition :
État d\'esprit qui, sous l\'influence du milieu ou de la discipline de travail, incite l\'homme à consacrer exclusivement son attention aux choses de son métier ou de sa profession et aux changements qui en découlent, d\'où il résulte que la réalité est altérée, parce que des faits essentiels échappent à son attention.
État d\'esprit qui incite une personne à prendre des attitudes propres à son activité professionnelle ou de travail, même en des domaines qui ne s\'y rapportent pas.
GDT





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http://granddictionnaire.com/btml/fra/r_motclef/index800_1.a...

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Google references:

The New York Times > Washington > Campaign 2004 > Political Points ...
... only possible bias. Journalists also have a professional bias: they
need good stories to make the front page and get on the air. ...
www.nytimes.com/2004/08/ 01/politics/campaign/01points.html

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http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:270DWkvKF1sJ:www2.mnbar...

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Franklin dictionary gives
mental conditioning caused by one\'s job
Peer comment(s):

agree houari
49 mins
thank you !
agree Jean-Claude Gouin
3 hrs
Thank you :)
agree Abdellatif Bouhid
4 hrs
merci Abdellatif !
agree Sophie Raimondo
6 hrs
merci Sophieanne !
agree Leah Ashe : Yes, agree.
5041 days
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French term (edited): D�FORMATION PROFESSIONNELLE

profession patriot

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ref. Langenscheid Handwörterbuch
Peer comment(s):

disagree writeaway : This is French-English, my Langenscheidt gives 'deformity for Deformation and afaik, "profession patriot" is not an English expression
1 hr
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French term (edited): D�FORMATION PROFESSIONNELLE

professional deformation

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But, probably out of pure professional deformation, I began noticing something else that I liked a lot less. This was the decade where I came of age, discovered theology, embraced my vocation at the intersection of Church and society.
http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9403/opinion/opinion.h...

Perhaps because of what might be called professional deformation, it was not really understood that health is a social phenomenon whose determinants cannot be neatly separated from other social and economic determinants. Nor can it be assigned solely to one bureaucratic-administrative sector of the state. Nor was it understood sufficiently—though it was spelled out clearly—that health is, above all, a complex social and political process that requires political decision-making not only at the sectorial level but also by the state, so that these decisions are binding upon all sectors without exception.
http://www.paho.org/English/DD/PIN/Number17_article1_2.htm

"We who wish to honor the thinkers, although our abode lies in the midst of the world, can hardly help finding it striking and perhaps infuriating that Plato and Heidegger, when they got mixed up in human affairs, turned to tyrants and Fuehrers. This should be imputed not only to the circumstances of the times and still less to preformed character, but rather to what the French call a professional deformation. For the inclination toward the tyrannical could be demonstrated theoretically in many of the great thinkers (Kant is the great exception)."

Hanna Arendt: "Martin Heidegger at Eighty"
http://www.hlss.mmu.ac.uk/pap/philos/cp2et.htm

Professional Deformation
Sarah Chayes - September 15, 2003 - #44

Re outside news... It's a professional deformation, as the French say, but I tend to throw myself pretty thoroughly into wherever I am. It feels like the whole world. I do listen to a few minutes of BBC World Service every AM, and devour magazines that come our way once a month or so. Afghans listen avidly to the BBC, in company often. But as that's Pashtu/Farsi service, it tends to be rather -- if not exclusively -- regionally focused. From my perspective, especially given what I've been witnessing, Iraq looks not only like a predictable quagmire, but perhaps a pretty well planned one. Could the lightening defeat of Saddam's forces have been due to a strategic withdrawal?
http://www.transom.org/guests/review/200310.review.chayes2.h...

The humorless and mean-spirited innuendo employed by Mr. Werner—the suggestion that I am "benevolent" in praising Strunk, the unspecified "points" of disagreement between Wellesz and Strunk, Werner's self-control in not identifying "other possible and impossible statements" in my review—all this hides nothing of substance; it is probably only a professional deformation, a tic of style, of implying something that is not there, that Werner developed the better to present his own musicological work, largely a tissue of unsupported conjectures. Some few of these conjectures concerning the relation of Byzantine to Hebrew chant were accepted by Wellesz, and the gratitude obliquely expressed by Werner's letter does him credit: the sour tone of its expression, however, is deplorable.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/9215



Peer comment(s):

agree Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
1 hr
Thanks, Jane!
agree translatol : This English is a calque on the French, as the Sarah Chayes quote shows, but never mind. It's something that Kudoz members are rather prone to, n'est-ce pas? Perhaps the idea is that people get so obsessed, they are as if mentally deformed.
7 hrs
Yes, they are. Thanks a lot.
agree Sarah Downing : Google supports this too - sometimes the French is even left in English
20 hrs
Thanks, Sarah!
agree Brian Gaffney
21 hrs
Thank you, Brian!
agree Calou
22 hrs
Thanks!
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22 hrs
French term (edited): D�FORMATION PROFESSIONNELLE

not for grading

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Collins-Robert gives "job-conditioning", which I have never seen before, but I prefer Vicky's "professional deformation", which I have seen and heard many times.
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1 day 22 hrs
French term (edited): D�FORMATION PROFESSIONNELLE

workaholic

Someone who can't stop working, even in their free time...someone like me ;)
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